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2022-05-16 01:07:01 +0200 <geekosaur> hm. so I imported Solid's pubkey but git log --show-signature still says "no public key". oops?
2022-05-16 01:07:21 +0200 <geekosaur> although it might be ssh, I guess, but he did register a gpg key
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2022-05-16 15:10:30 +0200Xioulious(~yourname@169.150.196.17)
2022-05-16 15:12:42 +0200 <Xioulious> what is the default config file for xmonad that I should be using to troubleshoot stuff? (trying to figure out whats going on with focus not following to empty workspaces)
2022-05-16 15:34:36 +0200 <davve> i think it depends on what OS/distro you have where its placed
2022-05-16 15:34:50 +0200 <davve> there is an example of a minimal configuration on the wiki https://www.facebook.com/reel/526731875654328/?s=ifu
2022-05-16 15:35:24 +0200 <davve> the first code section there where it only sets the mod key and terminal
2022-05-16 15:37:06 +0200 <Xioulious> the readme text on the xmonad-resting repository points to https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Config/Example.hs but not sure if that one is still recommended
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2022-05-16 15:47:20 +0200 <liskin> xmonad-testing is obsolete indeed
2022-05-16 15:47:39 +0200 <liskin> the default config is literally just "import XMonad\nmain = xmonad def"
2022-05-16 15:49:09 +0200 <liskin> a more full-featured config is here: https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0.9/XMonad-Config-Desktop.html#g:1
2022-05-16 16:07:41 +0200 <Xioulious> ok got that going, seems the focus does follow there.. so something in my config is breaking it
2022-05-16 16:31:09 +0200 <Xioulious> i do notice that if the workspaces on both screens are empty it sticks with one of the workspaces, focus doesnt change when moving the mouse to the other screen , is this a known thing or should that be working?
2022-05-16 16:38:03 +0200 <liskin> it's known and not at all easy to fix
2022-05-16 16:48:14 +0200 <Xioulious> ok, then i know its nothing with the config and doubt i often run into a situation where that happens
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2022-05-16 17:09:15 +0200 <Xioulious> interesting, seems the layouthook setting breaks the focus part
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2022-05-16 17:19:09 +0200 <Xioulious> wonder if its tied to the same thing, as soon as i use spacingRaw and set an empty border (for example width 16) the focus swap to an empty workspace stops working
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2022-05-16 18:06:25 +0200 <liskin> the problem is that xmonad doesn't get (by its own choice) events for every mouse move, but only when the pointer goes from one window to another
2022-05-16 18:06:37 +0200 <liskin> so if you have an xmobar between the screens it might work
2022-05-16 18:07:03 +0200 <liskin> there may be other dummy windows that sort of make it work
2022-05-16 18:07:51 +0200 <liskin> but in general it doesn't, because nothing tells us the mouse moved (you don't want a lightweight window manager to consume cpu on every mouse move, do you?)
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2022-05-16 18:23:11 +0200 <Xioulious> nah agreed, though i had some code that would make it work, but it caused some other bug which is solvable, just was wondering if it could just work without that code, but seems it cant if i want to keep gaps
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2022-05-16 22:47:21 +0200martin2222(~martin@ip4d16fb18.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2022-05-16 22:49:26 +0200 <martin2222> Hi I followed the configuration tutorial and none of the additionalKeysP show up?
2022-05-16 22:50:12 +0200 <martin2222> M-] should mean super Super-] or Mod-] or Alt-]? All are not doing anything
2022-05-16 22:53:02 +0200 <geekosaur> depends on what you set modMask to, which iirc should be Super (windows key)
2022-05-16 22:54:23 +0200 <martin2222> not doing anything
2022-05-16 22:54:38 +0200 <martin2222> could Xresources be the issue?
2022-05-16 22:54:59 +0200 <martin2222> BTW: I got Alsa running with stack install instead of cabal install
2022-05-16 22:55:45 +0200 <martin2222> So that worked eventually, but I even tried cabal on throwaway users and I would always get the same problem
2022-05-16 22:56:45 +0200 <martin2222> wrt to the key bindings: I have everything exactly as in the tutorial except for layouts and trayer which I hope to replace with keybindings
2022-05-16 22:57:46 +0200 <martin2222> (Alsa and xmobar that was if people recall)
2022-05-16 23:01:48 +0200 <martin2222> The way it is done in the tutorial M-] conflicts with switching to workspace 9
2022-05-16 23:02:07 +0200 <martin2222> but when I try M-b it still won't do anything
2022-05-16 23:03:16 +0200 <martin2222> It's as if `additionalKeysP` is not there at all
2022-05-16 23:03:46 +0200 <geekosaur> workspace 9 is mod-9 not mod-] ? and mod-b is added by withEastSB not additionalKeysP
2022-05-16 23:04:04 +0200 <geekosaur> (Solid, around by any chance?)
2022-05-16 23:07:18 +0200 <fizzie> A bunch of keyboard layouts (including the conventional German one) have ] in altgr-9, which I guess that "conflicts with" may mean.
2022-05-16 23:07:18 +0200 <martin2222> ah so I think have figured it out now
2022-05-16 23:07:48 +0200 <fizzie> But if that's the case, you couldn't usefully use M-] because ] isn't a key.
2022-05-16 23:07:48 +0200 <martin2222> fizzie geekosaur yes this was confusing me ] is 9 to me
2022-05-16 23:08:16 +0200 <martin2222> can I have a keybinding with no shift?
2022-05-16 23:08:27 +0200 <martin2222> I would like to have a simpler keybinding
2022-05-16 23:08:52 +0200 <martin2222> ah works
2022-05-16 23:09:05 +0200 <martin2222> Mod+l because there were no conflicts there
2022-05-16 23:10:00 +0200 <martin2222> (geekosaur I am around here for an hour if that's what you meant) -> no brackets
2022-05-16 23:11:39 +0200 <geekosaur> you have to use keys without modifiers in there, the only modifiers that can be accepted are the ones specified before it. there's actually a keymap checker you can hook into the startupHook that will warn you if you have any such bindings
2022-05-16 23:12:15 +0200 <geekosaur> sadly there is no good way to write a binding that works with any keymap
2022-05-16 23:12:57 +0200 <geekosaur> and iirc you're in real trouble if using the "neo" keymap :)
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