| 2022-05-05 00:01:41 +0200 | <moonsheep> | I still feel like it would be way nicer if you could communicate with things like the status |
| 2022-05-05 00:01:41 +0200 | <moonsheep> | bar with primitives like channels though |
| 2022-05-05 00:01:51 +0200 | <moonsheep> | oops |
| 2022-05-05 00:02:19 +0200 | moonsheep | (~user@185.154.9.192) (Quit: ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.1)) |
| 2022-05-05 00:02:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | eventually you're putting too much stuff in one process. that's kinda the gnome way of doing things, and it has the shortcoming that your whole session dies if any component does |
| 2022-05-05 00:02:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (especially noticeable under wayland since one of those components is the compositor) |
| 2022-05-05 00:02:58 +0200 | moonsheep | (~user@185.154.9.192) |
| 2022-05-05 00:03:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | eventually you're putting too much stuff in one process. that's kinda the gnome way of doing things, and it has the shortcoming that your whole session dies if any component does |
| 2022-05-05 00:03:06 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (especially noticeable under wayland since one of those components is the compositor) |
| 2022-05-05 00:03:20 +0200 | <moonsheep> | fair enough |
| 2022-05-05 00:04:52 +0200 | <Hash> | Hey guys |
| 2022-05-05 00:04:58 +0200 | <Hash> | I lost my logs and I need you guys |
| 2022-05-05 00:05:29 +0200 | <Hash> | So, remember last year, I had this problem, where if using plasmashell kde panels with Xmonad, something changed and it won't show menus anymore or context menus |
| 2022-05-05 00:05:52 +0200 | <Hash> | So I had to edit some source in some KDE plasmaframework package, and make it compatible. I can't for the life of me find that info again |
| 2022-05-05 00:05:58 +0200 | <Hash> | I know I posted it here Xmonad channel. |
| 2022-05-05 00:06:10 +0200 | <Hash> | Can someone please, if you have a chacne, and you don't mind, grep your logs for me please? |
| 2022-05-05 00:06:31 +0200 | <Hash> | I need that patch. I'm sure I posted it somewhere as a link. I have the old compile packages and source, but I can't remember which line I edited. |
| 2022-05-05 00:06:35 +0200 | <moonsheep> | just joined today, can't really help |
| 2022-05-05 00:07:02 +0200 | <Hash> | just grep for my nickname Hash or 'stoned' |
| 2022-05-05 00:07:16 +0200 | <Hash> | And kde and xmonad |
| 2022-05-05 00:08:12 +0200 | <Hash> | I can't find it in the channel log online either. |
| 2022-05-05 00:14:16 +0200 | <Hash> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174 |
| 2022-05-05 00:14:20 +0200 | <Hash> | I think this might be it. |
| 2022-05-05 00:17:11 +0200 | <Hash> | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396177 |
| 2022-05-05 00:20:43 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think that's it. I found the IRC log but it doesn't have details |
| 2022-05-05 00:22:16 +0200 | <Hash> | Oh thank you so much dude. |
| 2022-05-05 00:22:18 +0200 | <Hash> | I apprecaite you |
| 2022-05-05 00:22:26 +0200 | <Hash> | This is it. :) |
| 2022-05-05 00:23:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | it also noted the KDE folks didn't want to fix the bug, sadly |
| 2022-05-05 00:25:58 +0200 | geekosaur | wonders (possibly again) if "kdeinit" is enough to get styled KDE stuff without plasma |
| 2022-05-05 00:51:19 +0200 | moonsheep | (~user@185.154.9.192) (Quit: ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.1)) |
| 2022-05-05 00:58:25 +0200 | <abastro[m]> | geekosaur: It does seem like you can spawn a process which shares a TChan |
| 2022-05-05 00:59:23 +0200 | <Hash> | fixed. |
| 2022-05-05 00:59:25 +0200 | <Hash> | I don't want to upload a patch, because code changes from version to version. I'll post the exact C++ code needed to be changed. One has to intelligently apply it. Patches online won't work for this kde problem |
| 2022-05-05 01:05:29 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@137.79.215.173) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 01:12:56 +0200 | <geekosaur> | abastro[m], I doubt it, it's based on shared memory and distributed STM is quite sa different problem from single-process STM |
| 2022-05-05 01:13:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you may still have a TChan in the child after forkProcess but it won't communicate with the parent |
| 2022-05-05 01:21:24 +0200 | <Hash> | geekosaur: save this somewhere in your bookmarks or channel bot or something |
| 2022-05-05 01:21:26 +0200 | <Hash> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 |
| 2022-05-05 01:21:32 +0200 | <Hash> | :) |
| 2022-05-05 01:21:46 +0200 | <Hash> | Should be helpful for anyone now using latest KDE and Xmonad together |
| 2022-05-05 01:22:38 +0200 | <abastro[m]> | geekosaur: oh, I see. So TChan does not work across process |
| 2022-05-05 01:23:29 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I think distributed software transactional memory is still Ph.D thesis material |
| 2022-05-05 01:26:37 +0200 | <abastro[m]> | I guess locks are indeed the way to go then |
| 2022-05-05 01:26:53 +0200 | <abastro[m]> | Sad haskell lacks proper locks |
| 2022-05-05 01:29:10 +0200 | <abastro[m]> | Actually I more and more realize that system tray and dm tools should fire up window managers like xmonad, not the other way around |
| 2022-05-05 01:35:35 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@137.79.199.110) |
| 2022-05-05 01:58:58 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::aa1d) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 02:01:20 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@137.79.199.110) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 02:21:44 +0200 | <yuu[m]> | is there a way to abstract having simultaneous sets of workspaces? ideally, i could have a default configuration for workspaces (like naming/enumeration) for every set that could be inherited, but it could be customized if i want. so i have a set 1 for a specific project, and a set 2 for another one. Reading the topics thing, it doesn't seem to be the right tool. |
| 2022-05-05 02:24:49 +0200 | <yuu[m]> | also, would be interesting if a certain workspace i could share its state between all sets, but most other workspaces wouldn't share any state. |
| 2022-05-05 02:48:53 +0200 | <yuu[m]> | seems like https://github.com/Procrat/xmonad-contexts |
| 2022-05-05 03:12:35 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by allbery_b))) |
| 2022-05-05 03:12:35 +0200 | allbery_b | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) |
| 2022-05-05 03:12:38 +0200 | allbery_b | geekosaur |
| 2022-05-05 03:29:11 +0200 | stackdroid18 | (14094@user/stackdroid) (Quit: hasta la vista... tchau!) |
| 2022-05-05 03:45:04 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 2022-05-05 04:03:00 +0200 | banc | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 04:24:50 +0200 | banc | (banc@gateway/vpn/airvpn/banc) |
| 2022-05-05 04:56:04 +0200 | td_ | (~td@muedsl-82-207-238-011.citykom.de) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 04:57:55 +0200 | td_ | (~td@muedsl-82-207-238-115.citykom.de) |
| 2022-05-05 05:00:00 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::aa1d) |
| 2022-05-05 05:29:33 +0200 | jao | (~jao@211.68.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 06:00:39 +0200 | benin | (~benin@183.82.29.230) |
| 2022-05-05 07:45:12 +0200 | <Solid> | Hash geekosaur abastro[m] (I haven't read the whole conversation, but) there is a new QueueReader xmobar module that, as far as I can recall, was created exactly for this purpose |
| 2022-05-05 07:45:17 +0200 | <Solid> | c.f. https://github.com/jaor/xmobar/pull/568 |
| 2022-05-05 07:58:52 +0200 | [Leary] | (~Leary]@122-58-228-205-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-05-05 07:59:16 +0200 | [Leary] | (~Leary]@122-58-228-205-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz) |
| 2022-05-05 08:10:22 +0200 | <Hash> | What dude? |
| 2022-05-05 08:10:25 +0200 | <Hash> | Hi Solid |
| 2022-05-05 08:11:39 +0200 | <Solid> | oh, I mixed up names |
| 2022-05-05 08:11:57 +0200 | <Solid> | sorry, I meant to highlight moonsheep (but it seems they're not here anymore) |
| 2022-05-05 08:13:43 +0200 | <Solid> | yuu[m]: there is also X.A.DynamicWorkspaceGroups |
| 2022-05-05 08:16:15 +0200 | <Hash> | Ahh np. I got confused |
| 2022-05-05 08:17:00 +0200 | <Hash> | Be sure to note down that github thread of xmonad where I posted the fix, in case someone else comes around looking for the patch |
| 2022-05-05 08:17:12 +0200 | <Hash> | if ther is a channle bot, add it may be there |
| 2022-05-05 08:23:07 +0200 | <Solid> | mh, lambdabot may have that functionality, I don't know (but geekosaur might) |
| 2022-05-05 08:23:21 +0200 | <Solid> | in either case, thank you for the great write-up! :) |
| 2022-05-05 08:36:48 +0200 | <[Leary]> | @where KDE |
| 2022-05-05 08:36:49 +0200 | <lambdabot> | I know nothing about kde. |
| 2022-05-05 08:37:44 +0200 | <[Leary]> | @where+ KDE https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 |
| 2022-05-05 08:37:44 +0200 | <lambdabot> | I will remember. |
| 2022-05-05 08:37:54 +0200 | <[Leary]> | @where KDE |
| 2022-05-05 08:37:54 +0200 | <lambdabot> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-1118020397 |
| 2022-05-05 08:45:17 +0200 | <Solid> | oh, neat! |
| 2022-05-05 09:31:23 +0200 | <MarkLumbao[m]> | Some haskell-related packages got update and now I can't login to my xmonad session. Can anyone please share some resources I can use to debug and solve this problem? Thanks a lot. |
| 2022-05-05 10:12:52 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5ce3:8500::aa1d) (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 10:17:52 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) |
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| 2022-05-05 11:00:15 +0200 | Zach[m] | (~zoglesby@user/zoglesby) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
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| 2022-05-05 11:00:16 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2022-05-05 12:06:39 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) (Quit: WeeChat 3.5) |
| 2022-05-05 12:12:27 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-05-05 12:16:31 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
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| 2022-05-05 13:25:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | MarkLumbao[m], sounds like you are on arch and need to recompile your config from a command line |
| 2022-05-05 13:25:33 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2022-05-05 13:25:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and then start building haskell stuff properly instead of relying on the broken arch packages that keep doing this |
| 2022-05-05 13:28:19 +0200 | <geekosaur> | `xmonad --recompile` from the command line |
| 2022-05-05 13:36:35 +0200 | chomwitt | (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc19:d600:6d5a:79e9:ac14:c3a8) |
| 2022-05-05 13:58:17 +0200 | <yuu[m]> | Looking into it. Thank you! |
| 2022-05-05 14:22:36 +0200 | jao | (~jao@211.68.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 2022-05-05 16:47:27 +0200 | MrElendig | (~Urist@archlinux/op/MrElendig) (Quit: die die die my darling) |
| 2022-05-05 16:48:28 +0200 | MrElendig | (~Urist@archlinux/op/MrElendig) |
| 2022-05-05 16:48:58 +0200 | MrElendig | evilop |
| 2022-05-05 17:04:16 +0200 | Ether17 | (~Ether17@45.248.151.237) |
| 2022-05-05 17:04:37 +0200 | <Ether17> | geekosaur any updates on the Black window border? |
| 2022-05-05 17:06:50 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/395#issuecomment-1114144570 |
| 2022-05-05 17:07:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | if you omit windowNavigation or tell it not to use borders for navigation, it should go away |
| 2022-05-05 17:09:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (configurableNavigation noNavigateBorders) |
| 2022-05-05 17:13:23 +0200 | <Ether17> | its already there |
| 2022-05-05 17:14:36 +0200 | <Ether17> | line 609 |
| 2022-05-05 17:15:11 +0200 | <Ether17> | https://github.com/Ahanaf-Ether/xmonad |
| 2022-05-05 17:18:24 +0200 | moonsheep | (~user@iespladelestany.xtec.cat) |
| 2022-05-05 17:19:14 +0200 | Forkk | (~forkk@li926-228.members.linode.com) (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) |
| 2022-05-05 18:00:06 +0200 | unclechu | (~unclechu@2001:470:69fc:105::354) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2022-05-05 18:00:13 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2022-05-05 18:01:44 +0200 | Ether17 | (~Ether17@45.248.151.237) (Quit: Client closed) |
| 2022-05-05 18:23:22 +0200 | benin | (~benin@183.82.29.230) (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) |
| 2022-05-05 18:44:30 +0200 | moonsheep | (~user@iespladelestany.xtec.cat) (Quit: ERC 5.4 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 28.1)) |
| 2022-05-05 18:51:39 +0200 | arjun | (~arjun@user/arjun) |
| 2022-05-05 18:57:20 +0200 | <Solid> | geekosaur: `sc` fires in either case, even without borders |
| 2022-05-05 18:57:33 +0200 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2022-05-05 18:57:36 +0200 | <Solid> | I couldn't find an arrangement of windowNavigation calls to not kill borders |
| 2022-05-05 18:57:45 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm |
| 2022-05-05 18:57:47 +0200 | unclechu | (~unclechu@2001:470:69fc:105::354) |
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| 2022-05-05 19:33:03 +0200 | stackdroid18 | (14094@user/stackdroid) |
| 2022-05-05 21:33:44 +0200 | abhinav | (~abhinav@c-67-169-139-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 2022-05-05 21:34:06 +0200 | <abhinav> | everytime I start xmonad I am unable to call upon the scratchpad apps |
| 2022-05-05 21:34:26 +0200 | <abhinav> | I have to start another app before it starts to work anyone have any idea why that might? |
| 2022-05-05 21:34:51 +0200 | abhinav | abhixec |
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| 2022-05-05 22:55:13 +0200 | steve__ | (~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net) |