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2022-04-23 16:19:41 +0000 <jerg> hi pretty big noob here: I just reinstalled xmonad (rpm on fedora 35) and now I get some errors (https://pastebin.com/YeV6uPFm) that I don't know how to resolve (they seem to be unrelated to my xmonad.hs ?)
2022-04-23 16:24:13 +0000 <geekosaur> hm. are you sure this is using rpm installs? global packages like that are not normally hidden; that's more likely to occur if you have used cabal or stack in the past and don't have the appropriate dependencies declared
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2022-04-23 16:30:58 +0000 <jerg> hmm I never used cabal to install xmonad. I just installed xmonad-screenshot with cabal though (and probably forgot the lib flag)
2022-04-23 16:35:39 +0000 <geekosaur> hm, yes, that will install xmonad as a dependency and you would need to use --lib to get it installed where the build can find it. that would probably also get you xmonad 0.17.0 which is the current version (fedora hasn't caught up yet)
2022-04-23 16:36:08 +0000 <geekosaur> cabal install --lib xmonad-screenshot xmonad-contrib
2022-04-23 16:36:17 +0000 <geekosaur> still leaves why it can't find the global ones though
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2022-04-23 16:39:16 +0000 <jerg> ahh that makes sense
2022-04-23 16:40:55 +0000 <jerg> I'd would probably make sense to reinstall xmonad with cabal then (and hope that that resolves the issues)
2022-04-23 16:41:06 +0000 <jerg> *it
2022-04-23 16:41:38 +0000 <geekosaur> the command I gave you should do that since --lib gets propagated to all dependencies, which in this case includes xmonad
2022-04-23 16:42:10 +0000 <geekosaur> you can be explicit sabout it if you prefer by adding xmonad to the list
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2022-04-23 17:10:49 +0000 <jerg> I tried it but apparently there are errors in the screenshot tool so I'll probably just bind a key to another screenshot tool for now
2022-04-23 17:12:42 +0000 <geekosaur> most of us use scrot
2022-04-23 17:12:53 +0000 <jerg> just installed it :D
2022-04-23 17:12:58 +0000 <geekosaur> you do need to use XMonad.Utils.unGrab before running it
2022-04-23 17:13:16 +0000 <geekosaur> er, XMonad.Utils.Ungrab.unGrab
2022-04-23 17:14:25 +0000 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/xmonad.hs#L165-L170
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2022-04-23 23:32:17 +0000 <liskin> didn't think I'd ever actually look at INSTALL.md myself for help but here I am :-)
2022-04-23 23:33:16 +0000 <liskin> (trying to replicate my setup on work laptop and wishing I had a reproducible dotfiles)
2022-04-23 23:44:02 +0000AHemlocksLie(~mikey@2603-8080-090b-0b47-302e-59c5-34ce-6170.res6.spectrum.com)
2022-04-23 23:45:39 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> I'm following the configuration tutorial, and I can't get XMonad to start xmobar. I cloned and installed the latest XMonad and XMonad-contrib with Stack, and I used Cabal to install a recent version of xmobar. My configuration hasn't really deviated from the tutorial at all so far, and it starts fine from a terminal, but nothing happens when I restart xmonad
2022-04-23 23:46:23 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> xmonad has repeatedly recompiled with no issues. What could I be missing?
2022-04-23 23:46:30 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> Oh, and I'm on a fresh Ubuntu 22.04 install
2022-04-23 23:46:44 +0000 <abastro[m]> Hmm
2022-04-23 23:46:47 +0000 <geekosaur> unless you're using startx, xmonad probably starts with a minimal $PATH
2022-04-23 23:47:02 +0000 <abastro[m]> First of all, why did you use 2 different build tools?
2022-04-23 23:47:03 +0000 <geekosaur> so it won't find xmobar if it's in ~/.local/bin or ~/.cabal/bin
2022-04-23 23:47:11 +0000 <abastro[m]> That is, cabal and stack
2022-04-23 23:47:36 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> abastro[m]: because I already did xmonad, then I found xmobar just recommended cabal install
2022-04-23 23:47:56 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> geekosaur: that sounds plausible since it's not autocompleting with... I think that's dmenu?
2022-04-23 23:47:57 +0000 <abastro[m]> Oh
2022-04-23 23:48:13 +0000 <abastro[m]> Yea perhaps it doesn't matter `modulo` PATH variable
2022-04-23 23:48:23 +0000 <abastro[m]> Ye dmenu
2022-04-23 23:48:42 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> Yeah, that doesn't seem to see xmobar. I don't think it knows how to go find it to execute it, then...
2022-04-23 23:48:50 +0000 <geekosaur> are you using a ~/.xsession file? if so, add "source ~/.bash_profile" (or .profile or whatever your shell uses) after the #! line
2022-04-23 23:48:58 +0000 <abastro[m]> One needs to set up PATH variable, at least enough to launch xmonad and xmobar
2022-04-23 23:49:15 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> I am not using one, no. Can I put just that in one?
2022-04-23 23:49:47 +0000 <abastro[m]> What are you using to boot xmonad?
2022-04-23 23:50:01 +0000 <abastro[m]> Oh also you could set up environment variable inside xmonad
2022-04-23 23:50:15 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> Xubuntu's default login manager. I put a simple option thing for it at /usr/share/xsessions/xmonad.desktop
2022-04-23 23:50:20 +0000 <abastro[m]> (If you should, now that I don't know)
2022-04-23 23:50:30 +0000 <abastro[m]> Xubuntu?
2022-04-23 23:50:40 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> Ubuntu with XFCE by default
2022-04-23 23:50:43 +0000 <geekosaur> ubuntu spin for xfce
2022-04-23 23:50:43 +0000 <abastro[m]> Oh, you have it in xmonad.desktop
2022-04-23 23:51:00 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> Yeah, I had to manually create one myself, but I don't know a lot about that file or what processes it
2022-04-23 23:51:16 +0000 <geekosaur> I would point that file to a script which sources your .bash_profile or whatever and then runs xmonad
2022-04-23 23:51:25 +0000 <abastro[m]> ^
2022-04-23 23:51:42 +0000 <AHemlocksLie> That sounds like a decent idea. I'll try that. Probably gonna disconnect when I logout to try it.
2022-04-23 23:51:45 +0000 <geekosaur> https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/blob/skkukuk/start-xmonad
2022-04-23 23:51:55 +0000 <abastro[m]> I have my xmonad manager set the file up to fire my xmonad manager
2022-04-23 23:52:15 +0000 <geekosaur> although that file is for a desktop file, not a session file
2022-04-23 23:52:31 +0000 <geekosaur> but it should work when used from a session file as well
2022-04-23 23:54:26 +0000 <abastro[m]> Interesting how you have multiple branches
2022-04-23 23:54:37 +0000 <geekosaur> mm, you'll probably want to use bash instead of zsh, you may be using .bash_profile instead of .profile, and your xmonad will be in ~/.local/bin
2022-04-23 23:54:43 +0000 <geekosaur> one branch per machine
2022-04-23 23:55:11 +0000 <geekosaur> plus oddities like two branches for "hilfy", one for when it was my work laptop and one for when it was my personal machine
2022-04-23 23:56:02 +0000 <abastro[m]> In /.local/bin?
2022-04-23 23:56:13 +0000 <abastro[m]> Oh one branch per machine
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2022-04-23 23:56:21 +0000 <geekosaur> they said they installed with stack
2022-04-23 23:56:31 +0000 <abastro[m]> Ah
2022-04-23 23:56:34 +0000 <geekosaur> I used cabal somine is in ~/.cabal/bin instead of ~/.local/bin
2022-04-23 23:57:01 +0000 <abastro[m]> Stack is better in this regard I guess.. oh it isn't
2022-04-23 23:57:08 +0000 <abastro[m]> No, it is
2022-04-23 23:57:32 +0000 <abastro[m]> I mean yes stack is better, as it has proper uninstaller
2022-04-23 23:57:59 +0000 <abastro[m]> Manually adding ~/.cabal/bin to PATH is some pain