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2022-03-09 07:21:27 +0000 <Solid> iqubic: xmobar has some docs, but I don't think they have a "follow along" tutorial yet
2022-03-09 07:21:46 +0000 <Solid> (it's been on my list for a while, but I kind of don't want to write _another_ way too long tutorial :)
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2022-03-09 09:35:43 +0000 <iqubic> So, the powerline status bar for vim has a way to use a triangular separator between items on the status bar. Does xmobar have the same features? See this for an example of what I'm asking about: https://github.com/powerline/powerline#screenshots
2022-03-09 09:36:49 +0000 <iqubic> Clearly I'd want different modules than what powerline for vim does.
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2022-03-09 10:34:00 +0000 <Solid> This is just a unicode character AFAIR
2022-03-09 10:34:12 +0000 <Solid> so if xmobar can display it it should look much the same way
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2022-03-09 12:57:01 +0000 <tstsd> Hello , wondering if someone can help me the xmonad config, my xmobar is not launching, the --recompile and --restart are working fine.
2022-03-09 12:57:01 +0000 <tstsd> I had to compile using stack as my Arch linux libraries caused issues installing via pacman.
2022-03-09 13:01:12 +0000 <tstsd> https://codeshare.io/wn3zjD
2022-03-09 13:03:05 +0000 <geekosaur> "not launching" usually means something wrong with your xmobar config (xmobarrc), although it can also mean it's not in $PATH because most systems start window managers with a very limited PATH instead of the one you normally use
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2022-03-09 13:16:56 +0000 <tstsd> also, when i launch the xmobar from the terminal it showsup..
2022-03-09 13:17:31 +0000 <tstsd> and it has a strange "Updating..." message on the top left
2022-03-09 13:17:48 +0000 <geekosaur> that's just because you didn't launch it from xmonad
2022-03-09 13:18:03 +0000 <geekosaur> if you type something and hit enter it'll show up there
2022-03-09 13:18:07 +0000 <tstsd> i guessed so..
2022-03-09 13:18:17 +0000 <geekosaur> hm, actually no, you';re using the new stuff
2022-03-09 13:18:18 +0000 <Solid> they use property-based logging, so it should still show everything normally
2022-03-09 13:18:50 +0000 <Solid> tstsd: you have to use XMonadLog instead of StdinReader in your xmobar config
2022-03-09 13:18:56 +0000 <geekosaur> what does your xmobar config look like? ^^
2022-03-09 13:19:21 +0000 <tstsd> all the required configs are in the code snippet i shared, all inclusive just one file
2022-03-09 13:20:23 +0000 <geekosaur> so you don;t have an xmobar config?
2022-03-09 13:20:45 +0000 <geekosaur> (xmobar's config file is distinct from xmonad's, you create an xmobarrc)
2022-03-09 13:21:28 +0000 <tstsd> oops
2022-03-09 13:21:45 +0000 <tstsd> bear with me, trying xmonad first time
2022-03-09 13:24:07 +0000 <tstsd> in ~/.xmobarrc will do?
2022-03-09 13:24:13 +0000 <Solid> yes
2022-03-09 13:25:00 +0000 <tstsd> I have XMonadLog instead of StdinReader , is that ok?
2022-03-09 13:25:41 +0000 <Solid> exactly, replace StdinReader with XMonadLog and also add that to your template
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2022-03-09 13:28:37 +0000 <geekosaur> this would only fix the "Updating...", though, it would still leave a PATH issue
2022-03-09 13:37:34 +0000 <geekosaur> to fix the PATH issue, use a full path to xmobar in your xmonad config; the display manager will *not* use your shell dotfiles to find out what PATH to use, it will look in /bin and /usr/bin only
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2022-03-09 13:39:05 +0000 <geekosaur> (I start xmonad using a wrapper that sets $PATH to work around this. you could also use System.Environment.putEnv to set PATH as the first line of main (around line 32)
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2022-03-09 13:39:25 +0000 <geekosaur> put it *before* the call to xmonad
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2022-03-09 13:39:48 +0000Solidis glad he just uses startx and never had path problems
2022-03-09 13:40:32 +0000 <geekosaur> (I use the wrapper script so I can set my PATH in one place rather than having to update it in both)
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2022-03-09 17:24:53 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Hi
2022-03-09 17:25:10 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> How do I set terminal key to Mod + Enter
2022-03-09 17:25:36 +0000 <iqubic> What does your current xmonad.hs look like?
2022-03-09 17:25:42 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> And swap master to mod + m
2022-03-09 17:25:49 +0000liskin[m](~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768)
2022-03-09 17:26:28 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> * + m + Enter
2022-03-09 17:29:28 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Managed to figure it out
2022-03-09 17:29:30 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> The first one at least
2022-03-09 17:32:23 +0000 <geekosaur> how are you defining keys? if you really want mod-m Enter as swap-master, you'll really want to use additionalKeysP instead of the old-style key definitions
2022-03-09 17:33:34 +0000 <geekosaur> ("M-m <Enter>", windows W.swapMaster)
2022-03-09 17:33:49 +0000 <geekosaur> this requires also at the topof the file: import qualified XMonad.StackSet as W
2022-03-09 17:34:28 +0000 <geekosaur> you'll also want to substitute a different binding for the original mod-m, which focuses the master window. perhaps mod-m f ?
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2022-03-09 18:27:36 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> That works too yeah
2022-03-09 18:27:39 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> How do I do that?
2022-03-09 18:28:01 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> I also don't see xmobar running on Arch
2022-03-09 18:28:09 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Even tho I made the config file
2022-03-09 18:28:17 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> And filled it with stuff here
2022-03-09 18:28:32 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xmobar#Configuration
2022-03-09 18:29:09 +0000 <geekosaur> ("M-m f", windows W.focusMaster) -- again assuming additionalKeysP
2022-03-09 18:29:39 +0000 <iqubic> ArshiaAghaei[m] Can you share your xmonad.hs config file with us?
2022-03-09 18:29:40 +0000 <geekosaur> you can do sub-bindings withoiut additionalKeysP but it means creating and populating a Submap manually which is kinda ick
2022-03-09 18:39:39 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> <iqubic> "Arshia Aghaei Can you share your..." <- Sure
2022-03-09 18:40:13 +0000ArshiaAghaei[m]posted a file: (12KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ntpyBhUjGQNmFMKHewpGJzPl/xmonad.hs >
2022-03-09 18:40:24 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> It's on super early stages
2022-03-09 18:40:33 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> So don't expect nothing fancy lol
2022-03-09 18:41:11 +0000 <Solid> I would advise you to go through the tutorial
2022-03-09 18:41:13 +0000 <Solid> it teaches you things
2022-03-09 18:41:27 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> Where's the tutorial?
2022-03-09 18:41:29 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> xmonad.org?
2022-03-09 18:41:35 +0000 <Solid> ttps://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html
2022-03-09 18:44:14 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> ty
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2022-03-09 19:02:15 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> `[ ("M-S-z", spawn "xscreensaver-command -lock")`
2022-03-09 19:02:42 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> What would be the print screen keybinding
2022-03-09 19:02:50 +0000 <geekosaur> <Print>
2022-03-09 19:03:05 +0000 <geekosaur> or "<Print>" since it has to be a string
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2022-03-09 23:26:10 +0000jenifer(~jenifer@097-085-050-159.res.spectrum.com)
2022-03-09 23:32:40 +0000 <jenifer> Ok ill probably be laughed out of here but I am gonna ask anyway. Do people sometimes get tired of Haskell updates breaking there system and they just never update? lol
2022-03-09 23:34:40 +0000 <liskin> jenifer: yes
2022-03-09 23:34:56 +0000 <jenifer> Am I stupid to think of never updating?
2022-03-09 23:35:23 +0000 <jenifer> Is there some kinda flag I can use when doing updates in terminal that block Haskell based updates?
2022-03-09 23:35:41 +0000 <liskin> quite likely even distro maintainers get tired (and by tired I mean burned out) and stop maintaining stuff :-)
2022-03-09 23:35:59 +0000 <liskin> Haskell stuff in Debian has been stuck for over a year
2022-03-09 23:36:12 +0000 <jenifer> I use Arch
2022-03-09 23:36:19 +0000 <jenifer> Thus get updates all the time
2022-03-09 23:36:47 +0000 <jenifer> Silly thing is xmonad compiles fine lol but still wont load past light dm
2022-03-09 23:36:49 +0000 <liskin> oh, well, that's bad
2022-03-09 23:37:00 +0000 <liskin> arch doesn't let you do partial updates
2022-03-09 23:37:22 +0000 <liskin> so you're either going to be running insecure stuff, or you'll have to accept that updates break stuff
2022-03-09 23:38:10 +0000 <jenifer> Well I mean its only three files for me. I use Polybar so one config for it and auto start and xmonad.hs file
2022-03-09 23:38:13 +0000 <liskin> what many people do is install haskell stuff using stack/cabal/ghcup instead of using arch packages
2022-03-09 23:39:02 +0000 <jenifer> I mean if I just did a fresh install every 6mo should not be end of the world?
2022-03-09 23:40:57 +0000 <liskin> well everyone will tell you it's a really bad idea because security
2022-03-09 23:40:58 +0000 <jenifer> I can use Octopi to update one or two programs . I wonder if there is some kinda plugin or something that can be used with it to filter out things
2022-03-09 23:41:15 +0000 <liskin> realistically as long as you keep your browser updated, it may very well be just fine :-)
2022-03-09 23:41:20 +0000 <liskin> but don't tell anyone I told you
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2022-03-09 23:46:32 +0000 <jenifer> Well I figured id ask
2022-03-09 23:46:35 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> <liskin> "what many people do is install..." <- I installed xmonad using pacman
2022-03-09 23:46:36 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> It was old
2022-03-09 23:46:44 +0000 <ArshiaAghaei[m]> 0.15 I think
2022-03-09 23:47:53 +0000 <jenifer> Well I can drop into terminal and Arch is still working even my neofetch is there lol. So its Xmonad not starting up
2022-03-09 23:48:18 +0000 <jenifer> It compiled fine before the reboot and says its compiling fine from terminal at login screen lol
2022-03-09 23:49:51 +0000 <jenifer> I have something like this happen before and next day was fresh updates and boom it started working agian lol
2022-03-09 23:50:49 +0000 <jenifer> I was looking at i3 but not sure ill like the Tree format
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2022-03-09 23:58:27 +0000 <jenifer> Ok well I think I am gonna try a reinstall and just replace the configs with mine
2022-03-09 23:59:40 +0000 <jenifer> Thanks :)