| 2022-02-27 00:19:19 +0100 | yauhsienhuangtw | (~Yau-Hsien@61-231-39-29.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) |
| 2022-02-27 00:22:49 +0100 | yauhsien_ | (~Yau-Hsien@61-231-39-29.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-02-27 00:44:40 +0100 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Quit: :wq) |
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| 2022-02-27 05:00:49 +0100 | steve__ | (~steve@ool-182c2b80.dyn.optonline.net) |
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| 2022-02-27 05:35:55 +0100 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2022-02-27 05:55:33 +0100 | sleblanc | (~sleblanc@user/sleblanc) |
| 2022-02-27 05:55:47 +0100 | <sleblanc> | how can I recover a window that's unmapped? |
| 2022-02-27 05:55:59 +0100 | liskin[m] | (~liskinmat@2001:470:69fc:105::768) |
| 2022-02-27 05:56:19 +0100 | <sleblanc> | I was messing around with different layouts and a browser window disappeared. I think it's not part of one of my workspaces anymore |
| 2022-02-27 05:57:08 +0100 | <sleblanc> | I know it still exists because I can see it in xdpyinfo -root -tree, and one of the tabs was playing audio |
| 2022-02-27 06:00:07 +0100 | <sleblanc> | ^ oops, that's xwininfo |
| 2022-02-27 06:25:35 +0100 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 2022-02-27 06:32:14 +0100 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2022-02-27 06:49:03 +0100 | jao | (~jao@cpc103048-sgyl39-2-0-cust502.18-2.cable.virginm.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-02-27 07:36:36 +0100 | <Solid> | sleblanc: xmonad definitely shouldn't be losing any windows; can you reproduce this? |
| 2022-02-27 08:59:31 +0100 | <narendranath344[> | Do you guys use xmobar provided by distro package manager or build it from source? |
| 2022-02-27 09:09:45 +0100 | yauhsien_ | (~Yau-Hsien@61-231-39-29.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) |
| 2022-02-27 09:11:54 +0100 | srk | (~sorki@user/srk) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-02-27 09:12:11 +0100 | srk | (~sorki@user/srk) |
| 2022-02-27 09:12:23 +0100 | Solid | builds it from source |
| 2022-02-27 09:12:55 +0100 | yauhsienhuangtw | (~Yau-Hsien@61-231-39-29.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) |
| 2022-02-27 09:13:53 +0100 | <narendranath344[> | With cabal or stack? |
| 2022-02-27 09:14:10 +0100 | <Solid> | with stack |
| 2022-02-27 09:14:36 +0100 | <Solid> | https://gitlab.com/slotThe/dotfiles/-/tree/master/xmobar/.config/xmobarrc |
| 2022-02-27 09:16:59 +0100 | <narendranath344[> | Solid: Will look, thanks |
| 2022-02-27 09:40:21 +0100 | <sleblanc> | @Solid, yeah |
| 2022-02-27 09:40:21 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Unknown command, try @list |
| 2022-02-27 09:42:16 +0100 | <sleblanc> | Solid, that is, if I can remember how it happened… |
| 2022-02-27 09:43:44 +0100 | <Solid> | sleblanc: definitely do open an issue if you manage |
| 2022-02-27 09:45:56 +0100 | Steven_M | (~Steven_M@user/steven-m/x-0972586) |
| 2022-02-27 09:52:38 +0100 | <sleblanc> | meanwhile, do you have a quick one-liner I can run to remap any unmapped window? |
| 2022-02-27 09:52:48 +0100 | <sleblanc> | add it back to my current workspace? |
| 2022-02-27 09:53:00 +0100 | <sleblanc> | Solid ^ |
| 2022-02-27 09:55:12 +0100 | <Solid> | sleblanc: you'd have to find it first, but xdotool has a `windowmap` command, for example |
| 2022-02-27 09:57:05 +0100 | <sleblanc> | I have the window ID (through xwininfo) |
| 2022-02-27 10:00:14 +0100 | Mellow[m] | (~mellow210@2001:470:69fc:105::8c62) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2022-02-27 10:00:14 +0100 | Thalhas[m] | (~thalhamat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:766a) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2022-02-27 10:00:31 +0100 | <sleblanc> | Solid, thanks, found a way with xdotool! |
| 2022-02-27 10:00:44 +0100 | Thalhas[m] | (~thalhamat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:766a) |
| 2022-02-27 10:00:58 +0100 | Mellow[m] | (~mellow210@2001:470:69fc:105::8c62) |
| 2022-02-27 10:01:45 +0100 | Thalhas[m] | (~thalhamat@2001:470:69fc:105::1:766a) () |
| 2022-02-27 10:01:46 +0100 | Mellow[m] | (~mellow210@2001:470:69fc:105::8c62) () |
| 2022-02-27 10:02:27 +0100 | <Steven_M> | Hi, does xmonad have a larger community than qtile? |
| 2022-02-27 10:06:27 +0100 | <sleblanc> | Steven_M, probably, but I've never heard of qtile |
| 2022-02-27 10:07:25 +0100 | <Steven_M> | sleblanc: hehe, I guess that says it all. :-) |
| 2022-02-27 10:07:53 +0100 | <sleblanc> | what's xmonad anyway? :^) |
| 2022-02-27 10:10:16 +0100 | <Steven_M> | sleblanc: oops, did I spell it wrong? |
| 2022-02-27 10:14:11 +0100 | <sleblanc> | If you meant lemonade, then yeah you spelled it wrong, otherwise, no. it's just a jab at how few people are using XMonad |
| 2022-02-27 10:17:52 +0100 | <sleblanc> | Steven_M, nonetheless, it's very solid and highly configurable. I have been running it for years already, and I'm regularly seeing uptimes in the hundreds of days on my machines |
| 2022-02-27 10:19:08 +0100 | <Solid> | we've sort of settled on `xmonad' for the actual packages and `XMonad' for the broader project, I believe |
| 2022-02-27 10:19:15 +0100 | <Solid> | not that people really follow that :P |
| 2022-02-27 10:20:23 +0100 | <Steven_M> | sleblanc: good to know, I'll install it tomorrow. :) |
| 2022-02-27 10:20:56 +0100 | <Steven_M> | Solid: *nods :) |
| 2022-02-27 10:21:57 +0100 | <sleblanc> | also with Wayland just around the corner, I'm wondering what will happen with the XMonad project |
| 2022-02-27 10:58:41 +0100 | <Solid> | Steven_M: be sure to check out our install ( https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html ) and tutorial ( https://xmonad.org/TUTORIAL.html ) pages :) |
| 2022-02-27 11:00:22 +0100 | <Solid> | xmonad itself will probably not be ported to wayland, as it's just too tied to xlib; XMonad as a project will certainly look into the possibility of having an xmonad-like Wayland compositor (although most of us are still a bit skeptical how "just around the corner" wayland really is ;) |
| 2022-02-27 11:00:31 +0100 | <Solid> | we have written a few lines about this on https://github.com/sponsors/xmonad |
| 2022-02-27 11:01:31 +0100 | <Steven_M> | Solid: Will do, thanks. :) |
| 2022-02-27 11:02:37 +0100 | <Steven_M> | good night all :) |
| 2022-02-27 11:03:09 +0100 | Steven_M | (~Steven_M@user/steven-m/x-0972586) (Quit: zzz) |
| 2022-02-27 11:31:44 +0100 | butterfly[m] | (~butterfly@2001:470:69fc:105::1:70db) |
| 2022-02-27 11:34:25 +0100 | butterfly[m] | uploaded an image: (529KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/mozilla.org/2fa47c8f7dbf84b0e38aebdaae2e57c77f3f… > |
| 2022-02-27 11:34:38 +0100 | <butterfly[m]> | butterfly[m]: finally i run xmonad 0.17 on M1 MacBook (not vm) |
| 2022-02-27 11:59:12 +0100 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) |
| 2022-02-27 14:52:15 +0100 | sleblanc | (~sleblanc@user/sleblanc) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2022-02-27 18:10:19 +0100 | sleblanc | (~sleblanc@user/sleblanc) |
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| 2022-02-27 19:46:43 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
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| 2022-02-27 20:14:27 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | After a package update I'm unable to log into Xmonad for some reason. I tried to downgrade to no avail. Could someone please help? |
| 2022-02-27 20:14:54 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | xmonad --recompile does a successful build |
| 2022-02-27 20:17:42 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | Wait, now it logs in, but xmobar doesn't work for some reason |
| 2022-02-27 20:19:15 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | Says "error while loading shared libraries: libHSxml-conduit-1.9.1.1-[some gibberish]-ghc9.0.2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 2022-02-27 20:19:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | someone forgot to flag that in arch for a rebuild, is my guess |
| 2022-02-27 20:20:06 +0100 | <geekosaur> | one of the downsides of how arch handles haskell packages |
| 2022-02-27 20:20:13 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | Ugh |
| 2022-02-27 20:20:27 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | I think I'm just gonna switch to i3 |
| 2022-02-27 20:20:46 +0100 | <Solid> | better yet: switch away from arch! :> |
| 2022-02-27 20:20:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (haskell doesn't use shared objects normally, that'san arch-ism) |
| 2022-02-27 20:21:14 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | Shared objects? |
| 2022-02-27 20:21:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | .so suffix |
| 2022-02-27 20:22:01 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | What are they? |
| 2022-02-27 20:22:16 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | I've just never heard of shared objects |
| 2022-02-27 20:23:52 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they're supposed to improve memory usage because a single shared object can share memory in all programs that use it |
| 2022-02-27 20:24:52 +0100 | <geekosaur> | but there aren't enough haskell programs running on a systemto justify it and they have to be rebuilt every time their dependencies are updated (thta's haskell specific and a long story related to optimization) |
| 2022-02-27 20:25:30 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | Hmmm |
| 2022-02-27 20:25:51 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | I might just have to give up on xmonad :( |
| 2022-02-27 20:27:01 +0100 | <geekosaur> | just install itnot using arch packages. we recommend stack (in particular on arch), see http://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html |
| 2022-02-27 20:27:58 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | I see |
| 2022-02-27 20:28:01 +0100 | <unknownbeing[m]> | Thank you |
| 2022-02-27 20:28:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | arch just goes out of its way to make haskell painful |
| 2022-02-27 20:30:28 +0100 | <abhixec> | Hello! I am connecting to 4k display and the fonts and everything is super small. xrandr --scale 1.25x1.25 doesn't seem to work great because then it disorients the tiling proportion. anyone know how I should increase the font in a sane way? |
| 2022-02-27 20:35:22 +0100 | <geekosaur> | use lxappearance to adjust the fonts? |
| 2022-02-27 20:44:38 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2022-02-27 21:19:06 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2022-02-27 22:16:02 +0100 | <abhixec> | but that would mean that when I disconnect I need to go in and reduce the font again so that it readable on my laptop :/ |
| 2022-02-27 22:16:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | X11 sadly doesn't support per-screen font sizes |
| 2022-02-27 22:17:01 +0100 | <geekosaur> | this is one reason why everyone wants wayland |
| 2022-02-27 22:20:59 +0100 | <abhixec> | :'( |
| 2022-02-27 22:31:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | this is also a downside of client-side fonts, since that is what specifically doesn't let you specify a screen. if you select a server side font by point size I think it can do the right thing |
| 2022-02-27 23:03:07 +0100 | <abhixec> | by server side you mean specifying it in xdefaults file? |
| 2022-02-27 23:03:50 +0100 | <geekosaur> | font specifications that look like -misc-fixed-... |
| 2022-02-27 23:04:19 +0100 | <geekosaur> | instead of Monospace-12 or Monospace;size=12;... |
