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2022-02-13 10:11:58 +0100Solidjust wants to tear down the NamedScratchpad implementation and start over with an extensible state based one
2022-02-13 10:12:45 +0100 <Solid> we'd get things like DynamicScratchpads for free; damnit, backwards compatibility :/
2022-02-13 10:47:54 +0100mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47)
2022-02-13 10:48:35 +0100 <mc47> Solid what's wrong with the current one?
2022-02-13 11:05:34 +0100 <geekosaur> thought a backward-incompatible one was already in flight
2022-02-13 11:20:01 +0100seschwar(~seschwar@user/seschwar)
2022-02-13 12:10:42 +0100 <Solid> mc47: all functions take the list of available scratchpads as their first argument, which is not only ugly (imo, anyways) but also makes it so that things like DynamicScratchpads will always feel "tacked on" (because they have to necessarily use extensible state or something)
2022-02-13 12:12:35 +0100 <geekosaur> and my Loggers.NSP also feels tacked on because it is; it really belongs as part of the list of scratchpads
2022-02-13 12:12:51 +0100 <geekosaur> not that XS canfix that directly but it can at least hide the ugliness
2022-02-13 12:15:05 +0100 <mc47> I see your point
2022-02-13 12:15:30 +0100 <mc47> I think it'll be much cleaner that way
2022-02-13 12:17:08 +0100 <Solid> it would, but NSPs is one of the five modules that are used by more than two people, I don't think breaking it would be wise :/
2022-02-13 12:23:50 +0100 <geekosaur> backcompat wouldn't be that difficult, I'd think; plus backcompat didn't stop X.H.StatusBar :)
2022-02-13 12:24:40 +0100 <Solid> mh, indeed
2022-02-13 12:25:53 +0100 <geekosaur> anyway I think this is doable, just have the first backcompat call register all the scratchpads it's passed
2022-02-13 12:45:35 +0100 <mc47> "one of the five modules that are used by more than two people" LOL
2022-02-13 12:50:36 +0100 <geekosaur> :)
2022-02-13 12:56:59 +0100Nahra(~user@static.161.95.99.88.clients.your-server.de)
2022-02-13 13:10:25 +0100 <Solid> :>
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2022-02-13 18:02:32 +0100 <bmccormick> I went from lots of other wms over the years, then got turned onto DWM, then migrated to i3, which I have used for the last year, now I have swapped to Xmonad. Like it a lot, my one problem is getting xmobar to display on my machine. I tried lots of various guides out there on how to do it. Mint Linux, Lenovo i9 laptop. Can someone point me to a guide that does work to get xmobar showing on xmonad/
2022-02-13 18:15:56 +0100jao(~jao@static-68-235-44-54.cust.tzulo.com)
2022-02-13 18:51:01 +0100 <Solid> bmccormick: have you tried the official tutorial?
2022-02-13 19:02:38 +0100 <bmccormick> yes
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2022-02-13 19:07:54 +0100dirtcastle(~dirtcastl@103.43.203.227)
2022-02-13 19:10:36 +0100 <geekosaur> the tutorial doesn't actually say much about it
2022-02-13 19:11:00 +0100 <geekosaur> first thing to check is whether xmobar is even getting run; second is whether docks/avoidStruts is set up correctly
2022-02-13 19:12:27 +0100 <geekosaur> so I'd run xmobar from a terminal and make sure it's not throwing errors
2022-02-13 19:13:29 +0100 <geekosaur> then make sure it can be found in xmonad's PATH (which is usually /bin:/usr/bin because the X11 startup doesn't read the shell dotfiles your terminal does)
2022-02-13 19:13:36 +0100 <Solid> mh, I read "display" as "display workspaces"
2022-02-13 19:32:07 +0100 <geekosaur> oh, I missed they'd left
2022-02-13 19:32:45 +0100 <geekosaur> @tell bmccormick first thing to check is whether xmobar is even getting run; second is whether docks/avoidStruts is set up correctly. so I'd run xmobar from a terminal and make sure it's not throwing errors
2022-02-13 19:32:45 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2022-02-13 19:33:01 +0100 <geekosaur> @tell bmccormick then make sure it can be found in xmonad's PATH (which is usually /bin:/usr/bin because the X11 startup doesn't read the shell dotfiles your terminal does)
2022-02-13 19:33:01 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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2022-02-13 20:23:43 +0100 <Guest3> Heya
2022-02-13 20:24:39 +0100 <geekosaur> hi
2022-02-13 20:27:55 +0100 <Guest3> So, I have this problem : trynna `import Graphics.X11.ExtraTypes.XF86` but when compiling it cannot load because it is a member of a hidden package "X11-1.10.2", and to `set -package X11` to expose it, so I go do that, but it doesn't change anything ? Been on this for a little while and I don't get why
2022-02-13 20:29:11 +0100 <Guest3> I'm using cabal through ghcup by the way, so I'm doing this through `cabal repl xmonad`, also tried via `cabal repl xmonad-contrib`, no change
2022-02-13 20:30:56 +0100 <geekosaur> cabal repl --build-depends X11
2022-02-13 20:31:15 +0100 <geekosaur> cabal v2 is just a bit secretive about its packages :)
2022-02-13 20:32:46 +0100 <Guest3> Thanks !
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