2021/12/29

2021-12-29 00:52:08 +0100altker128(~vr@192-063-181-006.res.spectrum.com)
2021-12-29 00:52:15 +0100 <altker128> Hey guys
2021-12-29 00:52:27 +0100 <geekosaur> hi
2021-12-29 00:57:42 +0100 <altker128> I'm curious if anyone is using xmonad with something like MATE or potentially KDE . I'm thinking about xmonad because if I understand, it supports different workspaces per monitor
2021-12-29 00:58:22 +0100 <altker128> I'm fine with the way MATE handles notifications, device insertion and the icons on the desktop but if I understood correctly, some of that wouldn't work if one used a different window manager ?
2021-12-29 00:58:29 +0100 <altker128> i.e. icons on the desktop?
2021-12-29 00:58:56 +0100 <geekosaur> I use it with MATE https://github.com/geekosaur/xmonad.hs/tree/skkukuk
2021-12-29 00:59:26 +0100 <geekosaur> the desktop icons and device insertion etc. are handled by the file manager (caja), not the window manager (marco) which is replaced by xmonad
2021-12-29 01:00:07 +0100 <altker128> geekosaur: I read in an older thread caja must be stopped and interfers with xmonad -- is this still true?
2021-12-29 01:00:27 +0100 <geekosaur> notification daemon works fine too, with some odd peculiarities because each screen shows a different workspace so they jump around a bit depending on the focused screen
2021-12-29 01:00:36 +0100 <geekosaur> I've never seen a problem with it
2021-12-29 01:01:11 +0100 <altker128> geekosaur: Thanks for sharing your github link -- are you using that in conjunction with a recentish version of MATE? Which distro do you use, if you don't mind me asking?
2021-12-29 01:01:29 +0100 <altker128> Last question, if caja is still in the picture, can you get different wallpapers per virtual desktop / workspace ?
2021-12-29 01:01:57 +0100 <geekosaur> I'm on ubuntu 20.04 currently. used to be on Mint until the latest version's installer kept crashing on me while I was trying to set up this laptop
2021-12-29 01:03:20 +0100 <geekosaur> you can't, caja backgrounds aren't quite smart enough to deal with separate workspaces per monitor
2021-12-29 01:03:42 +0100 <geekosaur> so it only supports setting one background which displays on all screens
2021-12-29 01:03:46 +0100 <altker128> sigh :(
2021-12-29 01:04:36 +0100 <altker128> If I understood correctly, Caja basically treats a dual-monitor desktop as one big giant one, so I know you could combine two wallpapers so you get different ones per monitor
2021-12-29 01:04:51 +0100 <altker128> Is it possible to script caja to change the wallpaper on a virtual desktop swap?
2021-12-29 01:05:15 +0100 <geekosaur> I don't know
2021-12-29 01:05:37 +0100 <altker128> overall, what's your experience been like with xmonand + MATE ?
2021-12-29 01:09:01 +0100 <geekosaur> it works fairly well, aside from the little dconf dance needed to make it use xmonad instead of marco and needing to unbind mod4 from the menu applet to use it in xmonad
2021-12-29 01:09:14 +0100 <geekosaur> (see https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_MATE for both of those)
2021-12-29 01:09:19 +0100 <altker128> Do you get the MATE global menu, etc?
2021-12-29 01:10:02 +0100 <geekosaur> yes, everything works as expected
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2021-12-29 04:07:47 +0100 <sibi> Using the following entry on the orgPrompt todo +d 3 Jan 2022 creates entry for 2021-12-03.
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2021-12-29 10:34:15 +0100 <sibi> Figured out the above issue and this fixes it for me: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/672
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