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2021-12-11 12:54:37 +0100 | <Solid> | liskin: I guess for the release procedure of x11-xft I can just follow the relevant parts from MAINTAINERS.md? |
2021-12-11 13:01:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | aplainzetakind, pretty sure yu cannot build xmonad without XRandR support these days. can you do: ghc -e "Graphics.X11.openDisplay [] >>= Graphics.X11.Xinerama.getScreenInfo" |
2021-12-11 13:01:58 +0100 | <geekosaur> | if you're using stack or cabal you may need to use stack exec or cabal exec to do this |
2021-12-11 13:02:31 +0100 | <Solid> | what's a "merged display situation"? |
2021-12-11 13:03:57 +0100 | <geekosaur> | they're getting the bounding box of both their monitors as a single "monitor" in xmonad, as if xmonad were somehow not getting xinerama/XRandR display information |
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2021-12-11 13:08:05 +0100 | <Solid> | Oo |
2021-12-11 13:08:13 +0100 | <Solid> | that's certainly very weird |
2021-12-11 13:10:21 +0100 | <geekosaur> | aplainzetakind, also helpful: stack ghci or cabal repl, then: XOpenDisplay [] >>= getCleanedScreenInfo |
2021-12-11 13:11:20 +0100 | <geekosaur> | sorry, that's: openDisplay [] >>= getCleanedScreenInfo |
2021-12-11 13:11:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | for reference, mine produces: [Rectangle {rect_x = 1920, rect_y = 0, rect_width = 1366, rect_height = 768},Rectangle {rect_x = 0, rect_y = 0, rect_width = 1920, rect_height = 1080}] |
2021-12-11 13:17:52 +0100 | <geekosaur> | also might be interesting to do that with getScreenInfo instead of getCleanedScreenInfo and compare the results |
2021-12-11 13:18:16 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (I would expect that any bugs in nubScreens would have been found by now, but who knows?) |
2021-12-11 13:27:21 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | geekosaur: I don't have Graphics.X11 |
2021-12-11 13:27:43 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | But, I should probably take into account the xmonad environment. |
2021-12-11 13:27:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you wouldn't have xmonad if that were the case. stack user? |
2021-12-11 13:28:11 +0100 | <geekosaur> | or cabal user? |
2021-12-11 13:28:32 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Should I also pass -package-env=xmonad? That's where I installed the --lib's. |
2021-12-11 13:28:34 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | cabal |
2021-12-11 13:28:41 +0100 | <geekosaur> | right, you were asking about cabal and environment files yeterday |
2021-12-11 13:29:00 +0100 | <geekosaur> | so, this will be in cabal's store and you will need to use cabal repl |
2021-12-11 13:29:16 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and yes you'll need --package-env |
2021-12-11 13:29:54 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | cabal: unrecognized 'repl' option `--package-env=xmonad' |
2021-12-11 13:30:01 +0100 | <Solid> | liskin: it just worked \o/ thank you for making this so easy with the CI workflows |
2021-12-11 13:30:05 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | repl comes after? |
2021-12-11 13:30:08 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you didn't export the X11 libs soo --package-env won't be enough to access them |
2021-12-11 13:30:20 +0100 | <geekosaur> | comes after, yes |
2021-12-11 13:30:23 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | No. |
2021-12-11 13:30:34 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | I mean no to coming after. |
2021-12-11 13:30:43 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Both ways it says unrecognized option. |
2021-12-11 13:31:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hm |
2021-12-11 13:31:33 +0100 | <geekosaur> | although actually you should not need it here since it's still in the store and cabal repl gives you access to the store |
2021-12-11 13:31:39 +0100 | <geekosaur> | so just go without it |
2021-12-11 13:32:13 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Can't import Graphics.X11 |
2021-12-11 13:32:23 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | in a generic repl |
2021-12-11 13:32:41 +0100 | <geekosaur> | mm |
2021-12-11 13:33:03 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Should I go to ~/.xmonad and do it there perhaps? |
2021-12-11 13:33:17 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you don't really want a generic one, you want the one in the xmonad directory. but at worst `cabal repl --package=X11` should work |
2021-12-11 13:33:48 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that said, for the other tests you need to be in ~/.xmonad so you get the xmonad and xmonad-contrib libs, so yes go there |
2021-12-11 13:34:24 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | `cabal repl --package=X11` also can't import Graphics.X11 |
2021-12-11 13:34:29 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Is my store borked? |
2021-12-11 13:37:47 +0100 | <geekosaur> | blah. this is supposed ti work but it's not working here either |
2021-12-11 13:37:53 +0100 | <geekosaur> | are you in ~/.xmonad? |
2021-12-11 13:38:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I guess you have to use cabal repl in a directory that has access to your store |
2021-12-11 13:38:25 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that works for me here |
2021-12-11 13:38:32 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | I am in ~/.xmonad |
2021-12-11 13:39:09 +0100 | <geekosaur> | uh. no, it doesn't work for me after all :( |
2021-12-11 13:39:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I had expected dependencies would be at least visible, but I guess not |
2021-12-11 13:40:00 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | One question, should I have two X displays or one? |
2021-12-11 13:40:14 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | When a second monitor is connected that is. |
2021-12-11 13:40:43 +0100 | <obimod> | one display, two screens |
2021-12-11 13:40:52 +0100 | <obimod> | i think |
2021-12-11 13:40:55 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yes |
2021-12-11 13:41:00 +0100 | <geekosaur> | also one X11 Screen |
2021-12-11 13:41:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | because you can't move windows or workspaces between X11 Screens, because the Screen abstraction dates from a day when each Screen had its own independent video card / framebuffer |
2021-12-11 13:41:54 +0100 | <geekosaur> | which is why X11 uses the hack of carving multiple mnonitors out of a single root window |
2021-12-11 13:42:17 +0100 | <geekosaur> | okay, I guess you ignore that first part and do the other two, which I know work |
2021-12-11 13:42:41 +0100 | <obimod> | geekosaur: good to know :) |
2021-12-11 13:43:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | [11 12:10:21] <geekosaur> aplainzetakind, also helpful: stack ghci or cabal repl, then: XOpenDisplay [] >>= getCleanedScreenInfo |
2021-12-11 13:43:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | oh crap that has the other bug |
2021-12-11 13:43:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | [11 12:10:21] <geekosaur> aplainzetakind, also helpful: stack ghci or cabal repl, then: openDisplay [] >>= getCleanedScreenInfo |
2021-12-11 13:43:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | used the C name instread of the Haskell one |
2021-12-11 13:44:42 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Well, I don't have these names in the repl either. |
2021-12-11 13:45:23 +0100 | <geekosaur> | o.O |
2021-12-11 13:45:27 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Running cabal in the environment is not working somehow. |
2021-12-11 13:45:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | now I wonder how you built this in the first place |
2021-12-11 13:45:40 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Can I just run ghci with a flag for the env? |
2021-12-11 13:46:02 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | As in hvr's comment. |
2021-12-11 13:46:04 +0100 | <geekosaur> | ghci --package-env=xmonad |
2021-12-11 13:46:10 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hopefully |
2021-12-11 13:47:07 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | single - but it works and I can import XMonad. |
2021-12-11 13:47:14 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | But not Graphics X11. |
2021-12-11 13:47:20 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Because it's not in the env file. |
2021-12-11 13:47:31 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Can I still access openDisplay? |
2021-12-11 13:47:48 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Which module does it come from? |
2021-12-11 13:48:26 +0100 | <Solid> | Graphics.X11.Xlib.Display |
2021-12-11 13:48:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | XMonad reexports it and getScreenInfo |
2021-12-11 13:48:38 +0100 | <Solid> | oh but XMonad laso re-exports it |
2021-12-11 13:49:08 +0100 | <Solid> | shouldn't you just be able to execute this in main? this might be the most painless way |
2021-12-11 13:50:40 +0100 | <geekosaur> | well, point is I want to be able to find this out without the config in the way, just dumping server information as xmonad would receive it |
2021-12-11 13:50:48 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | [Rectangle {rect_x = 0, rect_y = 0, rect_width = 2560, rect_height = 1440}] |
2021-12-11 13:51:06 +0100 | <geekosaur> | guh |
2021-12-11 13:51:10 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Currently in arandr the monitors are laid out nested. |
2021-12-11 13:51:36 +0100 | <geekosaur> | so you're getting one screen from xrandr |
2021-12-11 13:51:51 +0100 | <geekosaur> | run xrandr on the command line to see what it says and pastebin the result |
2021-12-11 13:51:56 +0100 | <geekosaur> | @where paste |
2021-12-11 13:51:56 +0100 | <lambdabot> | Help us help you: please paste full code, input and/or output at e.g. https://paste.tomsmeding.com |
2021-12-11 13:53:27 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | http://dpaste.com//HQS8SQY97 |
2021-12-11 13:54:21 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | The monitors are part of the same screen. |
2021-12-11 13:54:35 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Pretty sure this is not an xmonad problem actually. |
2021-12-11 13:55:20 +0100 | <Solid> | `Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2560 x 1440` tells me that it only recognises one monitor (the HDMI-2 one) |
2021-12-11 13:56:13 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | No, the "screen" is a composite thing. |
2021-12-11 13:56:22 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Let me arrange the monitors side by side. |
2021-12-11 13:56:59 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | https://dpaste.com//2V57VH55F |
2021-12-11 13:57:15 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | See, it sets that screen to be the smallest rectangle containing both monitors. |
2021-12-11 13:57:38 +0100 | <Solid> | yes, but 2560x1440 was only the second monitor before, no? |
2021-12-11 13:57:59 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | The first output was because I arranged the monitors to be nested in arandr. |
2021-12-11 13:58:13 +0100 | <Solid> | oh |
2021-12-11 13:58:14 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | So The smallest rectangle was the bigger monitor. |
2021-12-11 13:58:24 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Otherwise things are unusable. |
2021-12-11 14:01:46 +0100 | <geekosaur> | hm. are they set to be mirrored? |
2021-12-11 14:03:48 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Does that mean cloned? |
2021-12-11 14:04:05 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yes |
2021-12-11 14:04:14 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | No. |
2021-12-11 14:04:50 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | They show portions of that abstract screen, however they are arranged. |
2021-12-11 14:05:02 +0100 | <geekosaur> | so with the monitors no longer overlapping, try the getCleanedScreenInfo thing again |
2021-12-11 14:06:12 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | [Rectangle {rect_x = 0, rect_y = 0, rect_width = 6985, rect_height = 4881}] |
2021-12-11 14:06:20 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Moved quite a bit apart. |
2021-12-11 14:07:06 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | I saw an SO question having this issue, edited to say that it got fixed after a system update with newer drivers. |
2021-12-11 14:07:15 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Can't find it now unfortunately. |
2021-12-11 14:07:52 +0100 | <geekosaur> | yeh, I'm thinking at this point it's a driver issue |
2021-12-11 14:08:16 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Found this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63887202/xrandr-two-screens-different-resolution-without-invis… |
2021-12-11 14:08:21 +0100 | <geekosaur> | xmjonad is not being told by the X server that there are two monitors |
2021-12-11 14:08:47 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | I have nouveau and i915. |
2021-12-11 14:09:02 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | I could switch which is in use in xorg.conf maybe? |
2021-12-11 14:09:15 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Is that a viable approach? |
2021-12-11 14:09:38 +0100 | <geekosaur> | it's worth trying |
2021-12-11 14:12:02 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Is there a handholdy guide to get me through without having to grok the entire xorg configuration. I have next to no knowledge on how to do that. |
2021-12-11 14:20:51 +0100 | <geekosaur> | not really |
2021-12-11 14:21:04 +0100 | <geekosaur> | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=243402 may help some |
2021-12-11 14:21:18 +0100 | <geekosaur> | although it's arch-specific |
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2021-12-11 16:04:45 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: good! |
2021-12-11 17:07:39 +0100 | <Solid> | huh, I didn't know we had X.C.Example |
2021-12-11 17:08:01 +0100 | <Solid> | I wonder if this might be a good place to keep the tutorial config in |
2021-12-11 17:22:06 +0100 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
2021-12-11 17:36:01 +0100 | <noex> | what would be the best way to arrange terminals in a certain configuration on different workspaces on startup? |
2021-12-11 17:36:48 +0100 | <noex> | intuitively, i would think the startup hook, but that runs on restart |
2021-12-11 17:37:46 +0100 | <Solid> | You can use spawnOnce (or spawnOnOnce) if you really only want to spawn these once per session |
2021-12-11 17:38:03 +0100 | <Solid> | ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Util-SpawnOnce.html#v:spawnO… ) |
2021-12-11 17:40:13 +0100 | <noex> | nice, thanks. i'll give that a shot. |
2021-12-11 17:42:03 +0100 | <Solid> | liskin: any more comments on https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/646/files ? |
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2021-12-11 18:29:22 +0100 | <MrElendig> | or one of the workspace modules maybe |
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2021-12-11 18:53:44 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: looks all right last time I looked |
2021-12-11 18:54:33 +0100 | <Solid> | coolio |
2021-12-11 19:05:29 +0100 | <liskin> | Solid: thanks for taking care of all this and sorry for not being around much |
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2021-12-11 19:06:26 +0100 | <Solid> | ah that's totally fine; mental health is definitely more important than xmonad :) |
2021-12-11 19:06:44 +0100 | <liskin> | Oh it's not just mental this time :-) |
2021-12-11 19:06:52 +0100 | <liskin> | Although who knows |
2021-12-11 19:07:29 +0100 | <Solid> | Oh right, you also hand some hand troubles (hopefully not more! :o) |
2021-12-11 19:07:30 +0100 | <liskin> | Maybe it's just my body telling me it's time for a proper break, and since the brain wouldn't listen otherwise... ;-) |
2021-12-11 19:07:43 +0100 | <liskin> | Yeah just hands |
2021-12-11 19:08:05 +0100 | <liskin> | Should be fine but I need to make sure it's well enough to not come back |
2021-12-11 19:10:13 +0100 | <Solid> | yeah I developed RSI in my right hand while I was in high school and to this day I can't use mice of a certain shape because in the span of like five minutes my hand will cramp like crazy |
2021-12-11 19:10:23 +0100 | <Solid> | shit is scary |
2021-12-11 19:12:36 +0100 | <liskin> | Oh |
2021-12-11 19:13:17 +0100 | <liskin> | I really really hope it just goes back to its original state :-/ |
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2021-12-11 19:14:22 +0100 | <noex> | i struggled with that really bad recently as well. it was frustrating, and i even saw a doctor who gave me no useful direction at all. |
2021-12-11 19:14:26 +0100 | <liskin> | I tried moving Ctrl to CapsLock to relieve the pinky a bit but there's not much else I can do without seriously disrupting the way I use the laptop |
2021-12-11 19:15:24 +0100 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
2021-12-11 19:15:30 +0100 | <liskin> | I'm seeing a physiotherapist next week. And by seeing I mean they booked a phone call. So... probably a waste of time? :-D |
2021-12-11 19:16:05 +0100 | <noex> | so i made a video on what steps i took to cure mine. i have no clue if it could help someone else and i'm sorry if it sucks, but I documented some things I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub6bGTb9wpc |
2021-12-11 19:16:36 +0100 | <noex> | definitely recommend looking at the linked video in the description |
2021-12-11 19:17:02 +0100 | catman | (~catman@user/catman) |
2021-12-11 19:17:20 +0100 | <Solid> | Ah, a phone call, the best way to diagnose a physical symptom for sure! :D |
2021-12-11 19:24:57 +0100 | <liskin> | noex: I'm hoping to not need a different keyboard (maybe naive but I haven't had trouble for several decades so maybe?) but those stretches look quite useful, I'll try those for a while, thanks! |
2021-12-11 19:26:17 +0100 | <ectospasm> | I started using a Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000 about 15 years ago. My RSI is barely noticeable since I switched. |
2021-12-11 19:26:55 +0100 | <ectospasm> | I have numbness/tingling in my ulnar nerve, and since I started using that model keyboard I only notice the problem when I think about it. |
2021-12-11 19:27:17 +0100 | <noex> | liskin: np at least for me those stretches were helpful - although at first quite painful...just take it gradually at first |
2021-12-11 19:28:21 +0100 | <liskin> | noex: I tried those as I watched the video now and it was almost fine |
2021-12-11 19:28:33 +0100 | <liskin> | But then I'm very flexible in the first place |
2021-12-11 19:30:29 +0100 | <liskin> | There's some possibility my pain is related to the broken bone in my wrist that never grew back together. That would be a bit silly as it's not the easiest surgery to fix. :-/ |
2021-12-11 19:36:24 +0100 | <noex> | hard to say :/ hopefully the doc can give you some insight |
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2021-12-11 23:49:42 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | geekosaur: So I did this https://dpaste.com//68P3DQECT to hopefully end up with two screens but this doesn't do anything either. |
2021-12-11 23:51:35 +0100 | <geekosaur> | why am I not surprised it's intel driver? (probably because mine has bugs too) |
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2021-12-11 23:54:12 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Maybe I should just put nouveau there? |
2021-12-11 23:54:39 +0100 | <geekosaur> | you could try it. nouveau has its own share of bugs but messing up multiscreen isn't generally one of them |
2021-12-11 23:55:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (I can't hotplug monitors on any of my Intel-based systems, everything gets severely messed up to the point that I can't even run something like arandr to fix it, and xrandr only if I get really lucky with where a terminal ends up) |
2021-12-11 23:56:26 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | Hmm I think my nouveau may be altogether borked. |
2021-12-11 23:57:14 +0100 | <aplainzetakind> | http://dpaste.com//8YZJS6Z59 This is grepping dmesg for nouveau |
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