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2021-11-28 06:42:19 +0100 <abhixec> what file managers do people use on xmonad? I am looking for a feature rich but more standalone one(by which I mean it shouldn't pull gnome/kde dependencies )
2021-11-28 07:11:32 +0100 <curiousgay> abhixec: if you care about not depending on gtk and qt at all, you can find the list of file managers here https://suckless.org/rocks/ and here https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/file+manager
2021-11-28 07:11:50 +0100 <curiousgay> ignore everything under "non-tcl file managers"
2021-11-28 07:16:35 +0100 <curiousgay> I can also recommend you acme from plan9port, but to handle different file types you need to configure the program plumb which also comes with plan9port
2021-11-28 07:18:00 +0100 <curiousgay> if you want GUI file manager, ignore everything suckless.org recommends and simply use something written in tcl/tk
2021-11-28 07:18:50 +0100curiousgayhates ncurses
2021-11-28 08:06:00 +0100 <Solid> abhixec: I use dired :>
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2021-11-28 08:18:21 +0100 <werneta> @abhixec I use thunar
2021-11-28 08:18:21 +0100 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
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2021-11-28 09:34:12 +0100 <curiousgay> werneta: thunar pull gnome dependency called gtk
2021-11-28 09:34:22 +0100 <curiousgay> s/pull/pulls/
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2021-11-28 10:13:05 +0100 <werneta> I'll be darned, you're totally right, I never noticed before
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2021-11-28 12:35:18 +0100desantra(~skykanin@user/skykanin)
2021-11-28 12:37:34 +0100 <desantra> I have this issue with firefox-devedition where sometimes when switching between workspaces my firefox window will dissapear as in it goes completely transparent and I can't interact with it, but the process is still running because if I happen to be playing a YT vid when this happens I can still hear the sound and the only solution I've found is to kill firefox and restart it. Anyone know what
2021-11-28 12:37:36 +0100 <desantra> causes this?
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2021-11-28 14:48:40 +0100 <Solid> desantra: could be a compositor issue?
2021-11-28 15:21:28 +0100 <desantra> Solid: this is what I'm thinking as well
2021-11-28 15:22:00 +0100 <desantra> I'll add firefox to the exclusion list cause I'm doing some opacity stuff in picom
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2021-11-28 17:48:39 +0100 <abhixec> Solid: I use emacs but never really got into getting too deep probably time to try dired.
2021-11-28 17:49:02 +0100 <Solid> excellent :)
2021-11-28 18:04:55 +0100 <abhixec> is there a way/layout to just open applications veritcally
2021-11-28 18:09:10 +0100 <noex> anyone know why qutebrowser would start on top of xmobar every time? i wish it wouldn't
2021-11-28 18:09:33 +0100 <noex> i have to togglestruts every time to get it back
2021-11-28 18:10:51 +0100 <Vermoot> abhixec, I think you can do that with Column or BinaryColumn, by just adding Mirror in front of it
2021-11-28 18:10:54 +0100 <noex> guess i could probably fix it with the managehook, but i wasn't sure if it was an obvious setting
2021-11-28 18:15:12 +0100 <abhixec> Thanks Vermoot
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2021-11-28 18:18:30 +0100 <vojjvoda[m]> So, I have yet again set these variables and they do not change a thing
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2021-11-28 18:37:33 +0100 <Solid> these are not the correct env variables
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2021-11-28 18:39:11 +0100 <Solid> they are called XMONAD_DATA_DIR, XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR, and XMONAD_CACHE_DIR
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2021-11-28 19:36:36 +0100 <noex> pasting is really awkward on the kinesis advantage, i was trying to remap home to be a "paste" button but it doesn't seem to work. i just mapped it to "spawn xclip -o" which does output my clipboard, but spawning must obviously not just dump stdout to the focused window
2021-11-28 19:37:34 +0100seschwar(~seschwar@user/seschwar)
2021-11-28 19:40:50 +0100 <Solid> you can use xdotool to send a S-<insert>
2021-11-28 19:41:08 +0100 <Solid> (wich `xdotool key Shift+Insert`)
2021-11-28 19:41:12 +0100 <Solid> s/wich/with/
2021-11-28 19:41:34 +0100 <noex> Solid: nice, that's perfect :)
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2021-11-28 19:49:51 +0100 <noex> Solid: can I use spawn to run that? strangely still does not seem to work. i'm not sure why.
2021-11-28 19:53:15 +0100 <geekosaur> XMonad.Util.Ungrab
2021-11-28 19:53:47 +0100 <geekosaur> it's launching while xmonad is still holding the keyboard grab, so probably the key is sent to xmonad
2021-11-28 19:54:20 +0100 <noex> ah that makes sense
2021-11-28 19:55:03 +0100 <noex> not sure if xmodmap or xbindkeys is a more idiomatic way to accomplish this
2021-11-28 19:56:03 +0100dschrempf(~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net)
2021-11-28 19:56:16 +0100 <noex> it probably is now that i think about it.
2021-11-28 19:57:18 +0100 <noex> start using a hammer and everything looks like a nail
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2021-11-28 20:13:45 +0100 <noex> one thing i have wondered recently is, if you have a grid of windows open, is it possible to have xmonad cycle them in a clockwise/counterclockwise fashion? it may be just my config also, but it seems to cut across in a rather...less than predictable way when I cycle windows. reading the docs lately, I am wondering if this is possible. i believe it just cycles through the "stack" of windows with no
2021-11-28 20:13:47 +0100 <noex> regard or real knowledge of their physical position on the screen...i could be wrong though.
2021-11-28 20:14:02 +0100seschwar(~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2021-11-28 20:14:51 +0100 <geekosaur> you are correct. X.A.WindowNavigation might be of interest, however
2021-11-28 20:14:52 +0100 <vrs> I'm pretty sure that you can do this but I know of no layouts that do it
2021-11-28 20:15:34 +0100 <vrs> yeah WindowNavigation was what I was going to link, I use it on my workstation with the big screens and many terminals https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.17.0/docs/XMonad-Layout-WindowNavigation.html
2021-11-28 20:15:45 +0100 <geekosaur> oh sorry, L not A
2021-11-28 20:16:02 +0100 <geekosaur> (I need to restart my browser, it's hanging on github again :(
2021-11-28 20:17:59 +0100 <noex> looks like i could probably write a function with this to accomplish what I want. doesn't sound trivial though. especially with my knowledge (or lack thereof) of haskell
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2021-11-28 20:18:39 +0100 <noex> i guess for clockwise, down becomes left if there is no window below
2021-11-28 20:18:42 +0100 <noex> etc
2021-11-28 20:19:48 +0100geekosaur(~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur)
2021-11-28 20:20:44 +0100 <noex> vrs: if you try to go down and there's nowhere to go in the down direction, i assume it just does nothing?
2021-11-28 20:21:04 +0100 <vrs> it wraps around
2021-11-28 20:21:19 +0100 <noex> hmm
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2021-11-28 20:22:51 +0100 <noex> maybe it's time to bite the bullet and finally learn haskell then
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2021-11-28 23:00:32 +0100 <vojjvoda[m]> <Solid> "they are called XMONAD_DATA_DIR,..." <- jesus im so fking dumb, thans
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2021-11-28 23:06:39 +0100 <geekosaur> I feel like I was the one who misled you on that at some point
2021-11-28 23:07:10 +0100 <geekosaur> because I recall giving someone those, because I had briefly confused the proper paths with ancient CDE paths :(
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