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| 2021-10-21 00:08:38 +0200 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@cpe0008a20f982f-cm64777d666260.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 2021-10-21 00:13:46 +0200 | bsjd | (~user@2a02:a020:2:cb68:b673:f846:2e0a:6969) |
| 2021-10-21 00:20:56 +0200 | redgloboli | (~redglobol@user/redgloboli) (Quit: ...enter the matrix...) |
| 2021-10-21 00:20:57 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | Dang, the project's sponsors have gone up again! 27 now. Nice! |
| 2021-10-21 00:21:12 +0200 | redgloboli | (~redglobol@user/redgloboli) |
| 2021-10-21 00:21:50 +0200 | <liskin> | the admin dashboard says 35 |
| 2021-10-21 00:22:13 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-146-132.toya.net.pl) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 2021-10-21 00:22:29 +0200 | <liskin> | it is indeed quite motivating :-) |
| 2021-10-21 00:22:53 +0200 | <liskin> | a nice change from the depressive beginnings |
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| 2021-10-21 00:27:12 +0200 | Hash | (~weechat@protect.yourself.with.hashsecurity.org) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) |
| 2021-10-21 00:32:46 +0200 | bsjd` | (~user@2a02:a020:2:cb68:b673:f846:2e0a:6969) |
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| 2021-10-21 00:37:18 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | I think that post `0.17` release, especially if we can get `DistroTube`'s public support: we could see some real engagement by the community. |
| 2021-10-21 00:38:38 +0200 | <liskin> | jakefromstatefar: what would be the best way to reach out to DT? |
| 2021-10-21 00:39:31 +0200 | bsjd` | (~user@2a02:a020:2:cb68:fa5d:3269:4e48:30) |
| 2021-10-21 00:39:55 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | He has a matrix server (I think), and a mastodon (probably the easiest), and a reddit that he occasionally looks at. |
| 2021-10-21 00:40:01 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | distro.toot |
| 2021-10-21 00:40:02 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | I believe |
| 2021-10-21 00:40:14 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | distrotoot.com * |
| 2021-10-21 00:40:42 +0200 | bsjd` | (~user@2a02:a020:2:cb68:fa5d:3269:4e48:30) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-10-21 00:40:52 +0200 | Hash | (~weechat@protect.yourself.with.hashsecurity.org) |
| 2021-10-21 00:42:32 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | He also reads a fair amount of his YT and LBRY comments that're prefixed with "Hey DT: ...". |
| 2021-10-21 00:45:01 +0200 | <liskin> | Hm, experimenting with the fediverse has been on my todo list for a while… |
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| 2021-10-21 01:13:13 +0200 | tremon | (~tremon@217-63-61-89.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
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| 2021-10-21 04:23:35 +0200 | Guest66 | (~Guest66@201.221.176.5) |
| 2021-10-21 04:27:07 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | same :) |
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| 2021-10-21 04:30:11 +0200 | rundown | (~eb0t@90.199.165.149) |
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| 2021-10-21 05:00:02 +0200 | haasn | (~nand@haasn.dev) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5+deb4 - https://znc.in) |
| 2021-10-21 05:01:32 +0200 | haasn | (~nand@haasn.dev) |
| 2021-10-21 05:16:52 +0200 | jakefromstatefar | uploaded an image: (61KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jupiterbroadcasting.com/OjLwcMckrOOnjIqAKLQeTSWy… > |
| 2021-10-21 05:17:10 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | Getting the ball rolling ^ |
| 2021-10-21 05:28:53 +0200 | benin0 | (~benin@183.82.179.164) |
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| 2021-10-21 05:29:07 +0200 | benin0 | benin |
| 2021-10-21 05:34:20 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | > If you want, you can pass along my email to the Xmonad guys (derek @at distrotube.com). That way they can keep me in the loop with there new release. |
| 2021-10-21 05:34:22 +0200 | <lambdabot> | <hint>:1:12: error: parse error on input ‘,’ |
| 2021-10-21 05:34:45 +0200 | <jakefromstatefar> | Alright, he's on board. 👍️ |
| 2021-10-21 07:04:00 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:300::4b63) |
| 2021-10-21 07:56:06 +0200 | Solid | is still not sure what to think about that guy |
| 2021-10-21 08:27:48 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: do you know where the short descrition at the start of the haddock page comes from ( https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib )? We need to change this from X.D.Extending to xmonad-docs as well |
| 2021-10-21 08:27:56 +0200 | <Solid> | s/haddock/hackage/ |
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| 2021-10-21 09:00:45 +0200 | benin1 | benin |
| 2021-10-21 09:05:50 +0200 | wonko | (~wjc@62.115.229.50) |
| 2021-10-21 09:11:03 +0200 | Hash | (~weechat@protect.yourself.with.hashsecurity.org) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) |
| 2021-10-21 09:12:12 +0200 | Hash | (~weechat@protect.yourself.with.hashsecurity.org) |
| 2021-10-21 09:21:33 +0200 | <liskin> | jakefromstatefar: cool, thanks |
| 2021-10-21 09:21:44 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: xmonad-contrib.cabal |
| 2021-10-21 09:22:24 +0200 | <Solid> | ah I see |
| 2021-10-21 10:17:16 +0200 | benin5 | (~benin@183.82.207.116) |
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| 2021-10-21 10:19:30 +0200 | benin5 | benin |
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| 2021-10-21 10:22:14 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-146-132.toya.net.pl) |
| 2021-10-21 10:24:20 +0200 | dibi58[m] | (~dibi58mat@2001:470:69fc:105::e99a) |
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| 2021-10-21 11:04:32 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
| 2021-10-21 11:06:53 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: do you need to "think about that guy"? :-) |
| 2021-10-21 11:18:59 +0200 | <Solid> | well, "no" if it's just some guy who makes videos about xmonad; "yes" if it's someone that we officially approach in some way |
| 2021-10-21 11:36:21 +0200 | mvk | (~mvk@2607:fea8:5cc1:300::4b63) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2021-10-21 11:44:06 +0200 | <liskin> | oh, that makes sense; if he says "xmonad asked me to …" and we say "thanks DT for helping us to …", that might make any potential hate transitively apply to us |
| 2021-10-21 11:45:01 +0200 | <liskin> | (speaking in very general terms, I'm neither good nor keen to navigate the waters of hate) |
| 2021-10-21 11:46:37 +0200 | <liskin> | (I did notice, though, that distrotoot happens to be one of the blocked mastodon instances on octodon.social, where one friend of mine is, but then octodon does seem to be quite trigger-happy with blocks… :-)) |
| 2021-10-21 11:46:55 +0200 | <liskin> | enough of this nonsense though, there are READMEs to be polished! |
| 2021-10-21 11:46:57 +0200 | <liskin> | :-D |
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| 2021-10-21 16:00:18 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) |
| 2021-10-21 16:06:12 +0200 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | Have any of you guys watched any of DT's videos?, his videos helped me greatly when I was a beginner in XMonad (still am).. |
| 2021-10-21 16:06:28 +0200 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | He even explains everything in his config in one video.. |
| 2021-10-21 16:07:21 +0200 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I mainly watched him to just get a sense of what XMonad was and what is possible with it... |
| 2021-10-21 16:13:15 +0200 | <FOSSHuman[m]> | I think he still uses the older (non-git) version of XMonad and XMonad-Contrib though |
| 2021-10-21 16:18:00 +0200 | <liskin> | FOSSHuman[m]: https://youtu.be/va-UFNDv08M?t=246 is an example of something that may relay transitive hate our way |
| 2021-10-21 16:19:08 +0200 | <liskin> | the Haskell community has managed to largely stay away from these issues, but it's a risk |
| 2021-10-21 16:20:38 +0200 | <liskin> | (transitive hate normally being called guilt by association, but we can use the proper mathematical terms here, right? :-)) |
| 2021-10-21 16:42:17 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) |
| 2021-10-21 16:48:08 +0200 | <Solid> | MrElendig once called him the "fox news of the *nix world" which seems accurate enough from what I've seen of the guy |
| 2021-10-21 16:49:17 +0200 | lifer0se | (~lifer0se@ppp-2-84-219-8.home.otenet.gr) |
| 2021-10-21 16:50:28 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2021-10-21 16:55:12 +0200 | pantsu | evilop |
| 2021-10-21 16:55:19 +0200 | <qbt> | i found several of his linux-vids to be quite uninformed, as for his political takes--he sure talks alot about it for being so against politics in the community... |
| 2021-10-21 17:00:27 +0200 | alternateved | (~user@staticline-31-183-146-132.toya.net.pl) |
| 2021-10-21 17:08:35 +0200 | liskin | hasn't seen enough content to go as far, and, having placed myself quite firmly in the center of the technopolitical scale, can kind of empathize with one feeling the need to denounce either of the extremes, but usually knows better to not comment (so I promise to myself to not say anything more than this) |
| 2021-10-21 17:34:56 +0200 | <mc47> | liskin: should we make ?-> a top-level function? |
| 2021-10-21 17:35:30 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, doesn't it need composeOne? |
| 2021-10-21 17:36:03 +0200 | <geekosaur> | or am I confused about what you're asking? |
| 2021-10-21 17:36:38 +0200 | <mc47> | I'm talking about the ppPrinters |
| 2021-10-21 17:36:59 +0200 | <mc47> | cond ?-> ppr = (asks cond >>= guard) $> ppr pp |
| 2021-10-21 17:39:49 +0200 | <liskin> | Dunno, try it and see what the pp param ends up looking like |
| 2021-10-21 17:45:51 +0200 | <mc47> | fallbackPritners would look a bit more verbose, but copiesPP would avoid redefining the function |
| 2021-10-21 17:45:58 +0200 | <mc47> | I'll write the docs first |
| 2021-10-21 17:46:23 +0200 | lifer0se | (~lifer0se@ppp-2-84-219-8.home.otenet.gr) (Quit: Connection closed) |
| 2021-10-21 17:52:26 +0200 | dibi58[m] | (~dibi58mat@2001:470:69fc:105::e99a) () |
| 2021-10-21 17:58:26 +0200 | dschrempf | (~dominik@070-207.dynamic.dsl.fonira.net) (Quit: WeeChat 3.3) |
| 2021-10-21 18:01:24 +0200 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) |
| 2021-10-21 18:20:01 +0200 | <liskin> | mc47: cool, then the only question is do we like the name? :-) |
| 2021-10-21 18:21:01 +0200 | <mc47[m]> | Oh |
| 2021-10-21 18:21:26 +0200 | <mc47[m]> | I'll think of something, but I don't have nothing against it |
| 2021-10-21 18:21:57 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I already pointed to one potential problem |
| 2021-10-21 18:22:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | hm, no, that one puts the ? in the wrong place. still, it's confusing |
| 2021-10-21 18:22:52 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (ManageHelpers composeOne uses -?>) |
| 2021-10-21 18:23:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | something naming something something hardest problem something |
| 2021-10-21 18:41:42 +0200 | <alternateved> | I am curious, is there any reason that lineNavigation is the default navigation in X.A.Navigation2D module? |
| 2021-10-21 18:43:44 +0200 | <alternateved> | Seems that with the default lineNavigation, movement between master and two slaves windows gets stuck |
| 2021-10-21 18:45:52 +0200 | <geekosaur> | "Line navigation and Side navigation feel rather natural but may make it impossible to navigate to a given window from the current window, particularly in the floating layer. Center navigation feels less natural in certain situations but ensures that all windows can be reached without the need to involve the mouse." |
| 2021-10-21 18:46:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there's also a paper presenting the details of the navigation strategies: http://www.cs.dal.ca/~nzeh/xmonad/Navigation2D.pdf |
| 2021-10-21 18:46:47 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (I just verified it's not a dead link) |
| 2021-10-21 18:46:53 +0200 | <alternateved> | Whoa, what |
| 2021-10-21 18:48:15 +0200 | <Solid> | alternateved: lineNavigation shouldn't get stuck in that situation (judging solely from its docs) |
| 2021-10-21 18:48:38 +0200 | <Solid> | it might if you have gaps (we had that situation here a while ago) |
| 2021-10-21 18:48:49 +0200 | <alternateved> | I would need to test it once again, since I stopped using it. |
| 2021-10-21 18:49:05 +0200 | <alternateved> | But yeah, with gaps (created by Spacing) I had that issue. |
| 2021-10-21 18:49:39 +0200 | <Solid> | the docs mention sideNavigation is being more intuitive for X.L.Spacing stuff |
| 2021-10-21 18:50:00 +0200 | <alternateved> | Ah, I see. So I guess that is my bias. |
| 2021-10-21 18:50:37 +0200 | <Solid> | to be fair, one does have to look at the docs of the individual strategies |
| 2021-10-21 18:51:25 +0200 | <Solid> | (and while I think that that module has excellent documentation, a quick list of all the strategies and their uses at the top level may be nice) |
| 2021-10-21 18:51:50 +0200 | <alternateved> | I guess explicit mention of the lineNavigation not working so well with Spacing would be good |
| 2021-10-21 18:51:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there's already a list at the top, it just doesn't really say when to use them |
| 2021-10-21 18:52:39 +0200 | <geekosaur> | and maybe instead of italics they should be links to the specific strategies |
| 2021-10-21 19:02:00 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ok, filed an issue. whether we want to address it for 0.17 given the short time we have is another question |
| 2021-10-21 19:06:01 +0200 | <alternateved> | Oh, didn't expect that! Thanks. |
| 2021-10-21 19:07:40 +0200 | <geekosaur> | good docs are always a good thing. Navigation2D is one of the better ones, but there is clearly room for improvement |
| 2021-10-21 19:35:52 +0200 | haasn | (~nand@haasn.dev) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5+deb4 - https://znc.in) |
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| 2021-10-21 20:08:58 +0200 | thunderrd | (~thunderrd@183.182.110.19) |
| 2021-10-21 20:20:16 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: how come some people get that ugly github.noreply email when they merge something and others do not? |
| 2021-10-21 20:21:04 +0200 | <geekosaur> | depends on whether github can associate your email address with your github identity, I think |
| 2021-10-21 20:21:38 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so I get mail for everything except actions I take |
| 2021-10-21 20:35:32 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: not sure but probably a privacy setting? |
| 2021-10-21 20:36:20 +0200 | <geekosaur> | you can also unsubscribe from emails about a repo |
| 2021-10-21 20:37:07 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2021-10-21 20:48:14 +0200 | <Solid> | oh indeed it seems to be privacy settings |
| 2021-10-21 20:56:49 +0200 | qbt | (~qbt@user/edun) |
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| 2021-10-21 21:51:14 +0200 | tomsmeding | (~tomsmedin@tomsmeding.com) |
| 2021-10-21 22:14:43 +0200 | <mc47> | I think we could merge #605 this weekend |
| 2021-10-21 22:15:14 +0200 | <mc47> | (I only have a small concern and a medium concern, and I need someone to proof-read the docs because I'm half asleep) |
| 2021-10-21 23:19:58 +0200 | CosmosAtlas | (~CosmosAtl@bras-base-ktnron060cw-grc-02-76-69-147-188.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 2021-10-21 23:27:41 +0200 | allbery_b | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) |
| 2021-10-21 23:27:41 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by allbery_b))) |
| 2021-10-21 23:27:44 +0200 | allbery_b | geekosaur |
| 2021-10-21 23:32:49 +0200 | <liskin> | mc47: I'm half asleep too (and half drunk), but I'll try to think about your concerns tomorrow :-) |
| 2021-10-21 23:35:53 +0200 | <geekosaur> | did you document your concerns somewhere? or do I have to reload the whole discussion instead of just the docs diffs? (which seem ok to me) |
| 2021-10-21 23:36:24 +0200 | geekosaur | has been watching a europa league whiparound all afternoon :) |
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