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2021-10-11 00:44:05 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> <geekosaur> "a lot of scripting, I think" <- The script itself was fairly straightforward, actually. :)
2021-10-11 00:44:31 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> The part that took the most effort was writing the layoutHook.
2021-10-11 00:45:00 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> There's still a few that I missed. Some of them don't really work for screenshots, or they're utility functions used in other layouts.
2021-10-11 00:45:12 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> And, some require manual intervention to properly display.
2021-10-11 00:45:20 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> So, I'll get to those.
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2021-10-11 04:02:45 +0000 <sibi> jakefromstatefarm[m]: Nice work!
2021-10-11 04:05:42 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Thanks! :D
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2021-10-11 05:31:01 +0000 <abhixec> https://pastebin.com/Js351xYR anyone know how I can fix the xmobar issue where the first time I startx xmobar doesn't show up but when I use mod+q it works fine
2021-10-11 05:43:17 +0000 <abhixec> this is my xmonad config: https://github.com/abhixec/dotfiles/blob/experimental/xmonad/xmonad.hs
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2021-10-11 06:35:40 +0000 <cjb> abhixec: are you using pipewire? on the off chance you are, I ran into a bug where xmobar crashes when trying to get the current volume from alsa, but works fine on the second try. Probably an issue with pipewire's alsa card/device? idk. anyways, worked around it by asking for the volume via pactl
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2021-10-11 13:46:19 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Another solution would be to add `pipewire-alsa`, aka alsa support for pipewire.
2021-10-11 13:46:30 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> I have that, and my alsa volume meter works fine.
2021-10-11 13:47:28 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Well, it's sorta buggy, but it was that way with pulseaudio too...
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2021-10-11 16:20:43 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/1eb0bc8f
2021-10-11 16:20:46 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Is this the best way to do this?
2021-10-11 16:24:12 +0000 <geekosaur> I think it actually appends "0", not duplicates. not that you'd notice. also there's a longer form #f000b0008000, and a few other varieties. but I don't know if we bind X11's color parser
2021-10-11 16:26:17 +0000 <geekosaur> we do: https://github.com/xmonad/X11/blob/master/Graphics/X11/Xlib/Color.hs#L90-L96
2021-10-11 16:26:56 +0000 <geekosaur> so you can support all the # forms, rgbi/(triple), etc.
2021-10-11 16:30:07 +0000 <geekosaur> hm, but then presumably you'd need to "unparse" it since we use strings
2021-10-11 16:35:48 +0000 <geekosaur> yeh, in fact I'm not sure you want to be parsing colors at all because I think everything relevant already uses lookupColor which handles hex colors, named colors, rgb[i] triples, etc.
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2021-10-11 17:20:38 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> The thing is, it doesn't support short format hex strings.
2021-10-11 17:20:56 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> e.g `#abc` is not seen as `#aabbcc`, but with my `hex6`, it is.
2021-10-11 17:21:11 +0000 <geekosaur> are you talking about xmonad or xmobar or something else?
2021-10-11 17:21:19 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> xmonad
2021-10-11 17:21:20 +0000 <geekosaur> sounds like a bug to be fixed in any case
2021-10-11 17:21:43 +0000 <abhixec> cjb I am using pipewire
2021-10-11 17:21:43 +0000 <geekosaur> hrm. file an issue, it should really be using lookupColor or its siblings
2021-10-11 17:22:23 +0000 <geekosaur> which should support #rgb, #rrggbb, #rrrrggggbbbb, rgbi/float,float,float, etc.
2021-10-11 17:27:38 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Oh, looks like xmonad does it just fine, I was mistaken. After thinking about it, now I remember: trayer doesn't support hex3.
2021-10-11 17:27:52 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> So, I made that function so trayer didn't spazz out.
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2021-10-11 19:43:11 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> I'm tempted to get an XMonad T-shirt... Yeah, I'll probably do that...
2021-10-11 19:43:23 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> The logo looks really clean on that design.
2021-10-11 19:52:29 +0000 <mc47> I did that
2021-10-11 19:52:33 +0000 <mc47> no regrets
2021-10-11 19:55:30 +0000 <liskin> Oh does the shop actually still work?
2021-10-11 20:00:43 +0000 <mc47> It worked last summer
2021-10-11 20:03:26 +0000 <geekosaur> it appears to still be there. now, does it feed sponsors?
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2021-10-11 20:10:54 +0000 <geekosaur> you kbow, like make a $50 donation and get a free tshirt
2021-10-11 20:11:45 +0000 <Solid> it's probably just some printing on demand style shop
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2021-10-11 20:11:53 +0000 <geekosaur> yeh
2021-10-11 20:11:59 +0000 <Solid> will work for years to come, but I'm waiting until we have a new logo to get a shirt :P
2021-10-11 20:12:56 +0000 <mc47> Do we want to do that before or after the release? :p
2021-10-11 20:14:01 +0000 <Solid> mc47: I was thinking of announcing a logo contest with the new release
2021-10-11 20:15:03 +0000 <Solid> (I suppose that's a good way to spend some of that money, maybe it'll bring some talented artists to entering)
2021-10-11 20:15:43 +0000 <Solid> or whatever I wanted to say with that last sentence
2021-10-11 20:17:08 +0000 <liskin> geekosaur: it doesn't
2021-10-11 20:17:26 +0000 <liskin> I spent like half an hour researching how to do that and got nothing
2021-10-11 20:17:49 +0000 <geekosaur> oh well
2021-10-11 20:18:20 +0000 <liskin> We'd need someone to handle that stuff because physical products definitely mean VAT almost everywhere in the world
2021-10-11 20:20:22 +0000 <mc47> sounds like a good plan
2021-10-11 20:21:10 +0000 <geekosaur> we'd have to get enough donations to cover it though
2021-10-11 20:21:46 +0000 <geekosaur> was kinda hoping there was a way to do it in reverse, have order/print place handle VAT plus kick $5 or so back to us
2021-10-11 20:21:54 +0000 <geekosaur> but I suspect this is uncommon
2021-10-11 20:23:05 +0000 <liskin> I think there must be something that does it. Open Collective docs mention it.
2021-10-11 20:23:21 +0000 <liskin> But it's not as easy as OC/GH
2021-10-11 20:23:26 +0000 <liskin> So I gave up :-)
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2021-10-11 20:54:53 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Speaking of...
2021-10-11 20:54:54 +0000jakefromstatefaruploaded an image: (26KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jupiterbroadcasting.com/ZyyrVNqdmDHHFMOObYbGsFez… >
2021-10-11 20:54:55 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Thoughts?
2021-10-11 20:55:04 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Not sure if I like the slight red.
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2021-10-11 21:55:13 +0000 <cjb> jakefromstatefar: I am using pipewire-alsa, the version of pipewire I have is 0.3.36, and xmobar crashes on login if I use the 'Alsa Mixer Element' i.e. the one that doesn't do polling.
2021-10-11 21:56:16 +0000 <cjb> I ran into another bug with pipewire-alsa, it reports 0% to 50% volume as 0% to 4%, making it very hard to fine tune the volume if you do jumps by 2%, might be my hardware though
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2021-10-11 22:16:06 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Yeah, looks specific to something in your setup. It works fine for me.
2021-10-11 22:16:11 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> looks like*
2021-10-11 22:20:27 +0000 <davve> jakefromstatefar: reminds me a lot of haskell logo
2021-10-11 22:27:59 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Indeed.
2021-10-11 22:31:12 +0000 <geekosaur> yeh, I actually didn't like that part because it screams haskell to me, not xmonad
2021-10-11 22:31:45 +0000 <geekosaur> at least the current one has an X11 logo as part of it
2021-10-11 22:37:06 +0000jakefromstatefaruploaded an image: (26KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/jupiterbroadcasting.com/pJfjnaiyYiomHeSslWFSxDoo… >
2021-10-11 22:37:15 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> What, then of this?
2021-10-11 22:37:44 +0000cjb(~cjb@user/cjb) ()
2021-10-11 22:37:52 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Less haskell, more X
2021-10-11 22:38:05 +0000 <geekosaur> looks like a bit of a mismash to me. Sorry
2021-10-11 22:38:32 +0000 <geekosaur> graphic designers make $$$$ for a reason: coming up with clean recognizeable designs is *hard*
2021-10-11 22:38:41 +0000geekosaurhas been there
2021-10-11 22:42:08 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Hm, idk, looks clean to me, but alas, your opinion differs, and you've more say. 🤷
2021-10-11 22:42:39 +0000 <geekosaur> "recognizeable" was the problem there. Like I said, mishmash
2021-10-11 22:43:04 +0000 <geekosaur> the X was sort-of there, the >>= kinda got split up and lost
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2021-10-11 22:44:55 +0000 <geekosaur> tbh I have similar problems with the current haskell logo: too clever, and the lambda kinda gets swallowed up by the >>=
2021-10-11 22:46:44 +0000 <jakefromstatefar> Hm. IDK, I thought it nice, because it was really clever. Most people using Haskell &/or XMonad are going to be somewhat intellectual. If it strikes them as clever (at least, this' how my brain functions) then they're more likely to remember it.
2021-10-11 22:46:48 +0000 <geekosaur> sadly, this doesn't mean I have a good idea of how to design a better one
2021-10-11 23:14:03 +0000 <davve> cant it be a cute animal mascot like tux?
2021-10-11 23:15:08 +0000 <geekosaur> have to find one ORA hasn't trademarked :/
2021-10-11 23:19:15 +0000 <geekosaur> (iirc perl went through that and ended up picking a different mascot because they couldn't simply use the camel)
2021-10-11 23:22:04 +0000 <geekosaur> jakefromstatefar, to be honest your second try makes me think of the old Commodore logo
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