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2021-10-03 07:52:28 +0200 <Solid> <elonsroadster[m]> Thats not REQUIRED just for using xmonad though... << now I'm confused; weren't we talking about extra steps to take in order to facilitate the "modify contrib" workflow? I'm just saying that the extra step for stack is literally "do nothing", while it seems non-trivial with a nix-based setup
2021-10-03 08:42:34 +0200 <HAL[m]> hello, I deleted the `~/.stack` folder and reinstall packages in `~/.xmonad` folder, but with the following error:... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/55a958deecd2b10843631b7a531794189079…)
2021-10-03 08:46:44 +0200 <Solid> seems like it can't determine your system in order to install a proper ghc version
2021-10-03 08:47:09 +0200 <Solid> you could try changing the stack resolver to match your system GHC's and then force stack to use that
2021-10-03 08:57:38 +0200 <HAL[m]> <Solid> "seems like it can't determine..." <- Thanks this is the second time I forgot... checked #4711 and created the symlink `sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libncurses.so.6 /usr/lib/libtinfo.so.6`
2021-10-03 08:57:55 +0200 <Solid> ah yes, that also works
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2021-10-03 16:25:33 +0200Solidnotices that mid-October is merely two weeks away... :)
2021-10-03 16:26:17 +0200 <geekosaur> tempus fugit
2021-10-03 16:26:49 +0200 <geekosaur> we've missed so many deadlines already, what's another? :þ
2021-10-03 16:28:42 +0200 <Solid> Oct 25 would mark the one year anniversary of the "pls do another release soon" issue; probably best not to celebrate that :>
2021-10-03 16:29:07 +0200 <geekosaur> halloween?
2021-10-03 16:29:56 +0200 <Solid> A halloween-themed xmonad release? With pumpkins as decorations!
2021-10-03 16:33:20 +0200 <mc47[m]> Ouf, I couldn't help the temptation of going on an indulgent trip to Italy after doing the thesis defense
2021-10-03 16:34:15 +0200 <mc47[m]> Is there any issues I could work on? Otherwise I'd try and update the DynamicLog references
2021-10-03 16:39:59 +0200 <Solid> probably not even that much that still needs work, tbh; once we merge #605 only the EWMH stuff and possibly the extensible state non-unique keys remain
2021-10-03 16:40:33 +0200 <Solid> the former would be really nice to have, the latter seems like it could also wait until the next release
2021-10-03 16:41:04 +0200 <mc47[m]> Agreed
2021-10-03 16:41:36 +0200 <Solid> (and if all else fails I would also be in favour of delaying the EMWH stuff until the next release; better get something out than treading water for another 6 months :))
2021-10-03 16:41:54 +0200 <Solid> so DynamicLog docs would be great! :D
2021-10-03 16:55:26 +0200Ihaveaquestion(~Ihaveaque@78.175.178.18)
2021-10-03 16:58:07 +0200 <Ihaveaquestion> Hello
2021-10-03 16:58:10 +0200 <Ihaveaquestion> Some windows close when I make them too small. Can I make them not shrink more than a certain scale ?
2021-10-03 17:03:24 +0200 <Archanus[m]> <Ihaveaquestion> "Some windows close when I make..." <- Huh thats interesting, how many windows are you opening per screen?
2021-10-03 17:11:38 +0200 <Ihaveaquestion> Sorry for my poor english, when I shrink it with the mouse
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2021-10-03 17:50:28 +0200 <liskin> Solid, mc47[m]: I should be back from vacation tomorrow
2021-10-03 17:50:42 +0200 <liskin> At least somewhat
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2021-10-03 20:01:11 +0200 <YusefAslam[m]1> How do I escape the template text into multiple lines using the default XMobar config syntax, it is one huge line and is very hard to decipher currently?
2021-10-03 20:01:15 +0200 <YusefAslam[m]1> s/?/./
2021-10-03 20:01:30 +0200 <YusefAslam[m]1> s/How do I escape the template text into multiple lines using the default XMobar config syntax, it is one huge line and is very hard to decipher currently?/How do I escape the template text into multiple lines using the default XMobar config syntax (not the Haskell syntax), it is one huge line and is very hard to decipher currently./
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2021-10-03 20:04:03 +0200 <Solid> I don't know if the parser supports this, but seeing that the config syntax is a subset of haskell you could try a backslash followed by a newline to split the string
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2021-10-03 20:07:13 +0200 <STEVEOSSAS[m]> Tried this, XMobar doesn't recompile after
2021-10-03 20:08:53 +0200STEVEOSSAS[m]TORRENTER[m]
2021-10-03 20:14:32 +0200 <Solid> I suppose your only options are to either hack this into the config file format or to use haskell to configure xmobar then :)
2021-10-03 20:14:55 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> K np, thanks for the help anyway :))
2021-10-03 20:29:22 +0200jokleinn(~jokleinn@user/jokleinn)
2021-10-03 21:29:14 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> Hey guys, I have an issue with 2 XMobars: One is at the top of the screen, one is at the bottom. I have an issue where one bar (e.g: top bar) doesn't kill itself on recompile, but the other bar (the bottom one) kills itself and then restarts, why is one bar not restarting, while the other one restarts as normal? Is it maybe because I configured ppOutput wrong?? What is going on? (Also mentioning that the CPU skyrockets on recompile to 99%,
2021-10-03 21:29:14 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> after recompile it sits at 19-30% usage, this is because of the duplicate bars spawning on top of each other probably).
2021-10-03 21:29:22 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/XMobars/XMobar instances/
2021-10-03 21:29:49 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/Hey guys, I have an issue with 2 XMobars: One is at the top of the screen, one is at the bottom. I have an issue where one bar (e.g: top bar) doesn't kill itself on recompile, but the other bar (the bottom one) kills itself and then restarts, why is one bar not restarting, while the other one restarts as normal? Is it maybe because I configured ppOutput wrong?? What is going on? (Also mentioning that the CPU skyrockets on recompile to
2021-10-03 21:29:49 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> 99%, after recompile it sits at 19-30% usage, this is because of the duplicate bars spawning on top of each other probably)./Hey guys, I have an issue with 2 XMobar instances: One is at the top of the screen, one is at the bottom. I have an issue where one bar (e.g: top bar) doesn't kill itself on recompile, but the other bar (the bottom one) kills itself and then restarts, why is one bar not restarting (but respawning on itself, while the
2021-10-03 21:29:49 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> previous process isn't killed), while the other one restarts as normal? Is it maybe because I configured ppOutput wrong?? What is going on? (Also mentioning that the CPU skyrockets on recompile to 99%, after recompile it sits at 19-30% usage, this is because of the duplicate bars spawning on top of each other probably)./
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2021-10-03 21:33:48 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> TORRENTER[m]: Main bit of config
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2021-10-03 21:35:33 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> TORRENTER[m]: The rest of main
2021-10-03 21:36:45 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> TORRENTER[m]: xmproc is the top bar on the main screen, xmprocbtmscr1 is the bottom bar on the main screen
2021-10-03 21:37:20 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> StdinReader is only running on the bottom bar BTW
2021-10-03 21:39:12 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> I have to do `killall xmobar` in the terminal, this kills all instances of the top bar and the one instance of the bottom bar.
2021-10-03 21:39:30 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> * the terminal to actually kill the bar instances, this
2021-10-03 21:39:37 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> * the terminal to actually instances, this
2021-10-03 21:39:59 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/I have to do `killall xmobar` in the terminal, this kills all instances of the top bar and the one instance of the bottom bar./I have to do `killall xmobar` in the terminal to actually kill all the instances of the top bar./
2021-10-03 21:40:49 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/I have to do `killall xmobar` in the terminal, this kills all instances of the top bar and the one instance of the bottom bar./I have to do `killall xmobar` in the terminal to actually kill all the instances of the top bar. /
2021-10-03 21:41:44 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> But hitting the recompile keybind for XMonad (alt-q) restarts the top bar & bottom bar as normal. When hitting this keybind again, the top bar doesn't kill and then restart itself, it just restarts an makes a new instance on top of itself; The bottom bar acts normally though..
2021-10-03 21:41:55 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/an/and/
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2021-10-03 21:46:19 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> This screenshot is proof that the top bar doesn't restart properly:
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2021-10-03 21:47:57 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> I'm on the stable version of XMonad, 0.15 BTW
2021-10-03 21:48:01 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> Not the git version
2021-10-03 21:48:37 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/Hey guys, I have an issue with 2 XMobars: One is at the top of the screen, one is at the bottom. I have an issue where one bar (e.g: top bar) doesn't kill itself on recompile, but the other bar (the bottom one) kills itself and then restarts, why is one bar not restarting, while the other one restarts as normal? Is it maybe because I configured ppOutput wrong?? What is going on? (Also mentioning that the CPU skyrockets on recompile to
2021-10-03 21:48:37 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> 99%, after recompile it sits at 19-30% usage, this is because of the duplicate bars spawning on top of each other probably)./Hey guys, I have an issue with 2 XMobar instances: One is at the top of the screen, one is at the bottom. I have an issue where one bar (top bar) doesn't kill itself on recompile, but the other bar (the bottom one) kills itself and then restarts, why is one bar not restarting (but respawning on itself, while the
2021-10-03 21:48:37 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> previous process isn't killed), while the other one restarts as normal? Is it maybe because I configured ppOutput wrong?? What is going on? (Also mentioning that the CPU skyrockets on recompile to 99%, after recompile it sits at 19-30% usage, this is because of the duplicate bars spawning on top of each other probably)./
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2021-10-03 21:54:31 +0200 <mc47[m]> Since StdinReader isn't running on the top bar, there's no way to kill it
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2021-10-03 21:56:26 +0200 <mc47[m]> Either use spawnOnce for the top bar so you don't restart it, add some logic to kill bars in your startupHook, or use XMonad.Hooks.StatusBar from the git version of contrib for a clean solution
2021-10-03 21:57:53 +0200 <mc47[m]> For the last option, you might want to check https://xmonad.org/INSTALL.html and https://xmonad.github.io/xmonad-docs/xmonad-contrib-0.16.999/XMonad-Hooks-StatusBar.html
2021-10-03 21:58:27 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> Thanks! So you're saying either update or use a janky fix?
2021-10-03 21:58:45 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> I'll stick with the janky fix for now, might switch to the git version later I guess..
2021-10-03 22:02:07 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/?/../
2021-10-03 22:02:27 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/a/the/, s/janky fix?/startupHook/
2021-10-03 22:02:37 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/janky/startupHook/
2021-10-03 22:03:17 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/I'm on the stable version of XMonad, 0.15 BTW/I'm on the stable version of XMonad, 0.15, and on the stable version of XMonad-Contrib too../
2021-10-03 22:06:21 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> Anyway I would go about doing the startupHook fix you mentioned (I am a beginner sry..)
2021-10-03 22:06:27 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/Anyway I would go about doing the startupHook fix you mentioned (I am a beginner sry..)/Any way I would go about doing the startupHook fix you mentioned (I am a beginner sry..)/
2021-10-03 22:09:13 +0200 <mc47[m]> Not sure if calling killall xmobar at the start of the hook would work (because of race conditions), so you're stuck with playing around with persistent states for now, which sadly isn't beginner friendly
2021-10-03 22:09:36 +0200 <mc47[m]> (no access to a computer right now, sorry)
2021-10-03 22:10:30 +0200 <mc47[m]> One thing you could do is use StdinReader in xmobar and send nothing to it from xmonad
2021-10-03 22:10:33 +0200 <mc47[m]> Might work
2021-10-03 22:11:27 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> mc47[m]: Tried this a few mins ago, same thing happens unfortunately lol
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2021-10-03 22:13:45 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> I'll just wait until tmrw I guess, in the meantime I'll just use spawnOnce and just manually kill the bar if anything happens, thanks though :))
2021-10-03 22:15:01 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> * use spawnOnce in the startupHook and just
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2021-10-03 22:22:34 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/I'll just wait until tmrw I guess, in the meantime I'll just use spawnOnce and just manually kill the bar if anything happens, thanks though :))/I'll just do this tmrw I guess, in the meantime I'll just use spawnOnce in the startupHook and just manually kill the bar if anything happens, thanks though :))/
2021-10-03 22:22:47 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> s/I'll just wait until tmrw I guess, in the meantime I'll just use spawnOnce and just manually kill the bar if anything happens, thanks though :))/I'll just do this tmrw (or another day) I guess, in the meantime I'll just use spawnOnce in the startupHook and just manually kill the bar if anything happens, thanks though :))/
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2021-10-03 23:27:19 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> Anyone know if the git version of XMonad is usable currently? Does it crash alot??
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2021-10-03 23:28:12 +0200 <geekosaur> it should be pretty stable; a number of people are running it currently, because we haven't had a release in so long and it has some major improvements
2021-10-03 23:28:23 +0200 <byorgey> TORRENTER[m]: the git version of XMonad is always rock-solid in my experience
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2021-10-03 23:29:17 +0200 <geekosaur> last time we had a significant issue with crashing was because the Arch packager for the git version decided to ignore the bounds on X11
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2021-10-03 23:29:56 +0200 <byorgey> I have been running xmonad for many years (10+?), I pretty much just randomly do a 'git pull' occasionally and rebuild whenever I feel like it. It has never crashed.
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2021-10-03 23:35:07 +0200 <geekosaur> in general, when we have bugs they don't show up as crashes. (in xmonad or -contrib at least. every so often a bug is uncovered in the X11 bindings which affects xmonad, like aforementioned Arch issue)
2021-10-03 23:35:53 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> Very nice! I think I will switch to the git version tmrw, I'm excited!!
2021-10-03 23:36:07 +0200 <geekosaur> most commonly they're backward compatibility issues which require xmonad.hs to be updated before it will compile againb
2021-10-03 23:37:11 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> * version tmrw (or some other day soon), I'm
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2021-10-03 23:59:41 +0200 <TORRENTER[m]> <geekosaur> "most commonly they're backward..." <- Does this mean I have to update my config before installing the git version? If so I dont mind anyway...