| 2021-09-09 00:03:27 +0200 | cjb | (~cjb@user/cjb) (Quit: cjb) |
| 2021-09-09 00:06:50 +0200 | seschwar | (~seschwar@user/seschwar) (Quit: :wq) |
| 2021-09-09 00:15:36 +0200 | cjb | (~cjb@user/cjb) |
| 2021-09-09 00:19:43 +0200 | lambdabot | (~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-09-09 00:20:25 +0200 | lambdabot | (~lambdabot@haskell/bot/lambdabot) |
| 2021-09-09 00:31:43 +0200 | <themc47> | Solid one could simulate every 100% purely functional program with just NOP :D |
| 2021-09-09 00:32:04 +0200 | themc47 | mc47 |
| 2021-09-09 00:33:36 +0200 | abhixec | (~abhixec@c-67-169-139-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 2021-09-09 00:51:42 +0200 | cjb | (~cjb@user/cjb) (Quit: cjb) |
| 2021-09-09 00:52:05 +0200 | dumuzid[m] | (~dumuzidma@2001:470:69fc:105::4388) |
| 2021-09-09 01:06:19 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-09-09 01:22:43 +0200 | <liskin> | I just found out that TweetDeck exists and is an official tool by Twitter |
| 2021-09-09 01:22:54 +0200 | cjb | (~cjbayliss@user/cjb) |
| 2021-09-09 01:23:18 +0200 | <liskin> | which means @xmonad can be operated by multiple people without having to fight the multifactor auth system :-) |
| 2021-09-09 01:23:24 +0200 | <geekosaur> | just? I think it's been around for a decade or so |
| 2021-09-09 01:23:47 +0200 | <liskin> | yes, just |
| 2021-09-09 01:23:58 +0200 | <liskin> | remember, there's "social" in "social media" |
| 2021-09-09 01:24:10 +0200 | <liskin> | of course I don't know shit about it |
| 2021-09-09 01:24:11 +0200 | <geekosaur> | heh |
| 2021-09-09 01:24:21 +0200 | <geekosaur> | one would think I'd be even worse there |
| 2021-09-09 01:24:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | \then again I bailed on twitter early for a reason |
| 2021-09-09 01:53:02 +0200 | abhixec | (~abhixec@c-67-169-139-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) (Remote host closed the connection) |
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| 2021-09-09 02:58:38 +0200 | <abhixec> | Has anyone figured out a sane way to handle floats(I know it is against the WM paradigm) but.. |
| 2021-09-09 02:58:59 +0200 | <abhixec> | or even a way to not have it always be on top of other windows |
| 2021-09-09 03:38:48 +0200 | cjb | (~cjbayliss@user/cjb) () |
| 2021-09-09 03:41:29 +0200 | cjb | (~cjbayliss@user/cjb) |
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| 2021-09-09 05:00:01 +0200 | haasn | (~nand@haasn.dev) (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5+deb4 - https://znc.in) |
| 2021-09-09 05:01:26 +0200 | haasn | (~nand@haasn.dev) |
| 2021-09-09 05:43:28 +0200 | <abhixec> | I have a weird problem where in the first time after booting I run startx xmobar appears for a second and then disappears but if do mod+q then it appears back and everything is fine. Can someone point to how I should go about debugging this issue? |
| 2021-09-09 05:51:46 +0200 | <cjb> | are you using pipewire? if so, for me xmobar behaved like that because I was using the xmobar ALSA volume indicator, I switched to using a custom command and pactl instead |
| 2021-09-09 05:53:01 +0200 | <cjb> | example ugly awk+sed custom command: https://github.com/cjbayliss/conf/blob/main/.config/xmonad/bar.hs#L19 |
| 2021-09-09 05:54:41 +0200 | <amenonsen> | i ended up using volumeicon-alsa instead. it's nice. |
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| 2021-09-09 07:25:56 +0200 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@cpe0008a20f982f-cm64777d666260.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
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| 2021-09-09 09:02:28 +0200 | mc47 | (~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47) |
| 2021-09-09 09:02:43 +0200 | <mc47> | abhixec your config would help figuring this problem out |
| 2021-09-09 09:14:55 +0200 | <mc47> | Finally submitted my thesis \o/ And it's on GitHub too |
| 2021-09-09 09:18:59 +0200 | <Solid> | awesome |
| 2021-09-09 09:19:05 +0200 | <Solid> | congrats mc47 :) |
| 2021-09-09 09:19:13 +0200 | <mc47> | thanks! |
| 2021-09-09 09:19:33 +0200 | <Solid> | I was thinking of uploading mine somewhere, but no one wants to see these commit messages :D |
| 2021-09-09 09:23:34 +0200 | <mc47> | yeah, mine ain't the best either :p |
| 2021-09-09 09:25:28 +0200 | wonko | (~wjc@62.115.229.50) |
| 2021-09-09 09:56:34 +0200 | cfricke | (~cfricke@user/cfricke) |
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| 2021-09-09 10:13:22 +0200 | <amenonsen> | where's your thesis? |
| 2021-09-09 10:13:44 +0200 | <liskin> | abhixec: I don't think there's a way to not have floats on top :-/ |
| 2021-09-09 10:15:09 +0200 | <liskin> | abhixec: it's not an insurmountable issue; one could create a layout that emulated the floating layer but used the Stack order instead, perhaps there might already be something like this in xmonad-contrib |
| 2021-09-09 10:15:50 +0200 | <liskin> | abhixec: but it's quite likely it won't integrate well with the rest of xmonad |
| 2021-09-09 10:17:22 +0200 | <liskin> | I've been thinking recently about what core changes we'd need to improve the situation w.r.t floats and sublayouts etc., but it'd be a major change, so it's not realistic to fix this without throwing most of the existing code out the window :-/ |
| 2021-09-09 10:17:45 +0200 | geekosaur | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by allbery_b))) |
| 2021-09-09 10:17:46 +0200 | allbery_b | (~geekosaur@xmonad/geekosaur) |
| 2021-09-09 10:17:49 +0200 | allbery_b | geekosaur |
| 2021-09-09 10:18:47 +0200 | <mc47> | amenonsen here https://github.com/TheMC47/bachelor-thesis-isabelle-linter |
| 2021-09-09 10:20:41 +0200 | <amenonsen> | cool. congratulations. |
| 2021-09-09 10:21:17 +0200 | <mc47> | thanks! |
| 2021-09-09 10:24:38 +0200 | <liskin> | mc47: nice, congrats! |
| 2021-09-09 10:24:49 +0200 | <liskin> | so now we both take a break, right? :-) |
| 2021-09-09 10:26:46 +0200 | <mc47> | thanks! Yeah, I'm definitely going to visit a friend of mine for the weekend |
| 2021-09-09 10:27:07 +0200 | <mc47> | But I think I'll have time to work next week, until the rest of my friends are finished with their theses :D |
| 2021-09-09 10:38:23 +0200 | <liskin> | :-)) |
| 2021-09-09 10:39:57 +0200 | <liskin> | isn't it a bit weird that you're all finishing the theses just before the winter semester starts? |
| 2021-09-09 10:40:36 +0200 | <liskin> | are you going to continue with a masters programme or does finishing the thesis after the application deadline mean you need to take a half-year break? |
| 2021-09-09 10:41:47 +0200 | <Solid> | liskin: in germany you normally write your Bachelors or Masters theses in the last semester of the respective degree, which happens to always be the summer semester |
| 2021-09-09 10:42:02 +0200 | <Solid> | so finishing around this time is actually completely normal |
| 2021-09-09 10:42:30 +0200 | <liskin> | Solid: it's exactly the same in the Czech Republic, but the summer semester ends in June |
| 2021-09-09 10:42:51 +0200 | <liskin> | and the application deadline is somewhere in July I think |
| 2021-09-09 10:43:39 +0200 | <liskin> | oh, but tum.de says summer semester ends at the end of September |
| 2021-09-09 10:43:45 +0200 | <liskin> | that explains this a bit |
| 2021-09-09 10:43:51 +0200 | <Solid> | lectures usually end in july here, with a month or two of exam period |
| 2021-09-09 10:43:57 +0200 | <liskin> | still a bit confused about the application deadline though |
| 2021-09-09 10:44:01 +0200 | <mc47> | you have plenty of time to submit |
| 2021-09-09 10:44:15 +0200 | <Solid> | application deadlines greatly depend on whether you're switching uni or not |
| 2021-09-09 10:44:26 +0200 | <Solid> | if you're not then the deadline is like the end of sep |
| 2021-09-09 10:44:35 +0200 | <liskin> | I see |
| 2021-09-09 10:44:56 +0200 | <mc47> | I think you have to give your bachelor's degree by the end of november |
| 2021-09-09 10:44:57 +0200 | <Solid> | and even if you are you don't necessarily have to have everything done when you apply (there's something like an "80% of all credits" rule when applying to another uni in germany) |
| 2021-09-09 10:45:12 +0200 | <mc47> | and the deadlines are "registration date + 4 months" |
| 2021-09-09 10:45:49 +0200 | <mc47> | Yeah, in my particular master's program I have till september of 2022 to submit my bachelor's degree |
| 2021-09-09 10:46:13 +0200 | <mc47> | (at TUM it doesn't really matter, you can extend your bachelor's with one semester and study your master courses in that semester) |
| 2021-09-09 10:47:48 +0200 | <liskin> | now that I look at the semester dates more carefully it's obvious what the difference between cz and de is |
| 2021-09-09 10:47:58 +0200 | <liskin> | you guys don't have two-month summer holidays |
| 2021-09-09 10:49:09 +0200 | <Solid> | depends when your exams are, usually |
| 2021-09-09 10:49:26 +0200 | <Solid> | when they're all in july already you have plenty of holidays |
| 2021-09-09 10:49:49 +0200 | <liskin> | yeah, but here the exam period and holidays are two separate things :-) |
| 2021-09-09 10:50:03 +0200 | <Solid> | ah, that depends on who you ask :P |
| 2021-09-09 10:50:38 +0200 | <liskin> | well yeah, I've heard that some profs do exams outside of the official semester dates |
| 2021-09-09 10:50:54 +0200 | <liskin> | but at the compsci faculty that wasn't common |
| 2021-09-09 10:50:55 +0200 | <Solid> | yes, this is especially common for oral exams |
| 2021-09-09 10:51:12 +0200 | <liskin> | we'd be done by mid-June and then slack off until mid-September |
| 2021-09-09 10:51:15 +0200 | <Solid> | (and I haven't had a written exam in 3 years now so... you can imagine how my exam schedule looked like :D) |
| 2021-09-09 10:52:26 +0200 | <amenonsen> | editing my xmonad.hs feels like an exam, especially the "anxiously awaiting the results" part. |
| 2021-09-09 10:52:28 +0200 | <liskin> | (or get a summer job or an internship, in which case 3 months of guaranteed holidays is kind of nice, although I've never done that, I did part-time all year long) |
| 2021-09-09 11:00:07 +0200 | ci[m] | (~cimatrixo@2001:470:69fc:105::d59e) (Quit: You have been kicked for being idle) |
| 2021-09-09 11:01:55 +0200 | <mc47> | I hate the way the exams are structured in germany |
| 2021-09-09 11:02:07 +0200 | <mc47> | and it doesn't match any other country |
| 2021-09-09 11:02:41 +0200 | <mc47> | which is terrible, because when I'm on vacation and I want to go to tunisia, it's highly likely that all my friends are having their exams |
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| 2021-09-09 18:33:11 +0200 | <abhixec> | cjb yes I am using pipewire, mc47: https://github.com/abhixec/dotfiles/tree/master/xmonad |
| 2021-09-09 18:56:33 +0200 | <abhixec> | liskin: thanks! I am just curious how to people handle use cases when say you open a bunch of apps which need to be on same workspace. |
| 2021-09-09 18:58:51 +0200 | <liskin> | abhixec: xmonad workflows of people vary wildly, so can't speak for all, but I personally almost never use floats for windows that are there to stay |
| 2021-09-09 18:59:08 +0200 | <abhixec> | liskin: is there a way instead to kind of find all floating and send them to like a different workspace (similar to NSP) |
| 2021-09-09 18:59:30 +0200 | <abhixec> | liskin: but then just curious how do you handle multiple apps in the same workspace? |
| 2021-09-09 18:59:42 +0200 | <abhixec> | or is that not a scenario you encounter at all? |
| 2021-09-09 18:59:46 +0200 | <liskin> | I use floats for temp stuff like dialogs and short-lived terminals and the media player and volume control |
| 2021-09-09 19:00:15 +0200 | <liskin> | multiple apps? well, those windows are in the tiling layer |
| 2021-09-09 19:00:21 +0200 | <liskin> | it's a tiling window manager, after all :-) |
| 2021-09-09 19:00:55 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-Drawer.html is one way to do it |
| 2021-09-09 19:01:24 +0200 | <abhixec> | yes true but then when you have say 7 apps(not ideal to have in a workspace but just humor me) they start to be very squished how to ahndle that |
| 2021-09-09 19:01:36 +0200 | <Solid> | fullscreen :D |
| 2021-09-09 19:01:59 +0200 | <liskin> | abhixec: if I really must have that many apps in a single workspace, I usually tab those windows together |
| 2021-09-09 19:02:05 +0200 | <liskin> | (via sublayouts) |
| 2021-09-09 19:02:30 +0200 | <abhixec> | interesting guess my mind is still stuck in the floating/stacking paradigm. |
| 2021-09-09 19:02:59 +0200 | <liskin> | you can also make keybindings that make some windows transparent |
| 2021-09-09 19:03:10 +0200 | <liskin> | I sometimes do something like that |
| 2021-09-09 19:03:29 +0200 | <liskin> | just leave the float in front of the other windows and then frantically move it around every time I need to see behind it :-)) |
| 2021-09-09 19:03:58 +0200 | <Solid> | hah |
| 2021-09-09 19:04:10 +0200 | <liskin> | and surely you can have a keybinding that sends all floats away, although not sure if there's an existing module doing that |
| 2021-09-09 19:04:21 +0200 | <liskin> | it's really simple to code that, but you'd need to know a bit of Haskell |
| 2021-09-09 19:04:53 +0200 | <abhixec> | yes I am in the process of learning haskell :) |
| 2021-09-09 19:05:46 +0200 | <abhixec> | how to make a window transparent? do you have an example or link? |
| 2021-09-09 19:06:28 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Hooks-FadeWindows.html |
| 2021-09-09 19:07:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | of course you need to be running a compositor for transparency to work |
| 2021-09-09 19:14:55 +0200 | <abhixec> | thanks! |
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| 2021-09-09 23:22:23 +0200 | defjam | eblip |
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