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2021-08-14 00:04:19 +0200 <unrooted> okay so I think I might have finished ricing this thing for unixporn competition
2021-08-14 00:04:21 +0200 <unrooted> https://imgur.com/a/hdGkJSW
2021-08-14 00:04:37 +0200 <unrooted> if you guys have any more ideas how to make it even more Haskelly, tell me
2021-08-14 00:30:26 +0200 <davve_> maybe some more interesting layouts
2021-08-14 00:31:00 +0200 <davve_> some color wouldnt hurt, maybe for the focused border
2021-08-14 00:58:13 +0200 <unrooted> there is a focused border color haha
2021-08-14 00:58:30 +0200 <unrooted> I don't really like colors, I can't stare at too much colors at once
2021-08-14 00:59:21 +0200 <unrooted> I sometimes even use grayscale color filter so everything's in grayscale on my screen
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2021-08-14 01:11:13 +0200 <unrooted> I got it, one more slight touch to the Mix - running Prelude and saying 'Hello, world!'
2021-08-14 02:03:38 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> <kunrooted[m]> "I don't really like colors, I..." <- yeah but you're submitting this to unixporn. I don't know if a grayscale thing is going to be a hit there.
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2021-08-14 11:15:49 +0200 <Tisoxin> Is somebody using the nix flake in his homemanager/system configuration?
2021-08-14 11:16:13 +0200 <Tisoxin> I get an error, when i try to use it in my inputs :(
2021-08-14 11:17:25 +0200 <Tisoxin> And i have absolutely no idea, what could cause the error
2021-08-14 11:19:42 +0200 <liskin> Tisoxin: elonsroadster[m] maintains the flake, not sure if any other people around here use it yet
2021-08-14 11:25:55 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> <Tisoxin> "I get an error, when i try to us" <- what's the error?
2021-08-14 11:26:04 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> I use it in my nixos config
2021-08-14 11:27:09 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> Tosixon: can you post exactly how you are using it? You should probably use it as an overlay if you are using it homemanager or nixos
2021-08-14 11:27:48 +0200 <Tisoxin> https://paste.debian.net/1207634/
2021-08-14 11:28:17 +0200 <Tisoxin> elonsroadster: i'm using the devos template and atm i have it only included as an input
2021-08-14 11:29:01 +0200 <Tisoxin> so its probably some really weird problem with devos & xmonad
2021-08-14 11:29:08 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> hmm im not familiar with devos template
2021-08-14 11:29:13 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> can you show me your actual flake?
2021-08-14 11:29:23 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> are you using follows, by chance?
2021-08-14 11:30:42 +0200 <Tisoxin> no
2021-08-14 11:31:04 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> Tisoxin: as in you cant show me, or you're not using follows?
2021-08-14 11:31:12 +0200 <Tisoxin> https://paste.debian.net/1207636/
2021-08-14 11:31:13 +0200 <Tisoxin> no, i don't use follows
2021-08-14 11:31:30 +0200 <Tisoxin> (it includes lots of stuff in other files)
2021-08-14 11:32:05 +0200 <Tisoxin> in facts, i just found that it seems that this flake i just pasted works
2021-08-14 11:32:26 +0200 <Tisoxin> since i removed xmonad and xmonad-contrib from the `inherit inputs;` statement
2021-08-14 11:32:29 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> yes, so its not the "mere" import right?
2021-08-14 11:32:50 +0200 <Tisoxin> Even though i'm 99% percent sure, that i tried that yesterday and that it didn't work >:/
2021-08-14 11:33:04 +0200 <Tisoxin> elonsroadster: It doesn't seem like it
2021-08-14 11:33:09 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> yeah my guess is that there is a recursive dependency for haskellPackages
2021-08-14 11:33:17 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> why not just use the provided overlay
2021-08-14 11:33:24 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> that will do the right thing
2021-08-14 11:33:33 +0200 <Tisoxin> what do you mean?
2021-08-14 11:33:55 +0200 <Tisoxin> what overlay?
2021-08-14 11:34:10 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> there is an overlay provided by the flake
2021-08-14 11:34:18 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> the way you did for all of the other things you imported
2021-08-14 11:34:42 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> just use xmonad.overlay
2021-08-14 11:34:42 +0200 <Tisoxin> you mean `xmonad.overlay` and `xmonad-contrib`?
2021-08-14 11:34:43 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> and xmonad-contrib.overlay
2021-08-14 11:34:43 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> yeah
2021-08-14 11:35:16 +0200 <Tisoxin> it doesn't even work if i use those or none
2021-08-14 11:35:45 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> you mean nix blows up?
2021-08-14 11:35:58 +0200 <Tisoxin> yes, i get the same error :(
2021-08-14 11:36:07 +0200 <Tisoxin> that's exactly why it's so confusing
2021-08-14 11:36:18 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> Here's where I use it in my nixos config: macs-overlay.overlay
2021-08-14 11:36:38 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> https://github.com/IvanMalison/dotfiles/blob/215c6f5a94320cfd261f395d2d1a95344728adf9/nixos/flake.…
2021-08-14 11:37:47 +0200 <Tisoxin> thanks
2021-08-14 11:37:57 +0200 <Tisoxin> I think the error lies in the devos part
2021-08-14 11:38:16 +0200 <Tisoxin> though it's weird that there is only a problem with xmonad
2021-08-14 11:38:18 +0200 <Tisoxin> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2021-08-14 11:38:41 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> can you look at /nix/store/dcdhm4v7xpib8ky44pxwyjziqm2vd91q-source/ and tell me what it is?
2021-08-14 11:39:13 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> maybe its one of the dependencies of the xmonad flake?
2021-08-14 11:39:24 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> like maybe the gitignore package?
2021-08-14 11:39:42 +0200 <Tisoxin> seems to be the flake-utils-plus package
2021-08-14 11:40:51 +0200 <Tisoxin> (which is a dependency of digga)
2021-08-14 11:41:13 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> yeah seems like its a weird interaction between these two
2021-08-14 11:41:13 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> I dont know wtf digga is
2021-08-14 11:41:31 +0200 <Tisoxin> its a dependency of devos
2021-08-14 11:42:17 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> I mean read the docs of digga: Digga requires the flakes feature available via an experimental branch of nix. Until nix 3.0 is released, this project should be considered unstable, though quite usable as flakes have been maturing well for a while.
2021-08-14 11:44:13 +0200 <Tisoxin> well, as long as i don't pass xmonad and xmonad-contrib to inputs in the output section of the flake it seems to work?
2021-08-14 11:44:47 +0200 <Tisoxin> wait what? xmond doesn't compile…
2021-08-14 11:45:25 +0200 <Tisoxin> https://paste.debian.net/1207638/
2021-08-14 11:45:52 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> Tosixon: thats probably just because nix is lazy...
2021-08-14 11:47:30 +0200 <Tisoxin> what do you mean with that?
2021-08-14 11:49:25 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> the xmonad and xmonad-contrib attributes dont get evaluated at all if you dont use them
2021-08-14 11:50:02 +0200 <Tisoxin> well, i use them…
2021-08-14 11:50:56 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> and you're saying you get the same error even with using the overlay
2021-08-14 11:51:07 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> instead of what you initially posted
2021-08-14 11:51:38 +0200 <Tisoxin> yes, now i get the error https://paste.debian.net/1207638/
2021-08-14 11:56:07 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> what thats not AT ALL the same
2021-08-14 11:56:25 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> if im going to help you you have to reliably report what is actually going on
2021-08-14 11:56:39 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> that means the overlay is working, but it might not work with the set of haskell packages that you are trying to use it with
2021-08-14 11:56:56 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> yes, that's exactly it
2021-08-14 11:57:19 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> the version of the X11 library in the haskellPackages of the nixpkgs you are trying to use this with is too old
2021-08-14 11:57:49 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> so you can either use a newer version of nixpkgs
2021-08-14 11:58:29 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> alternative if you try to do what you did originally, my guess is that while that would work, you would pull in all the haskell dependencies for xmonad completely separately from any other haskellpackages on your system
2021-08-14 11:58:38 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> which is probably not what you want
2021-08-14 12:00:34 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> I hate systems like this because they are so ridiculously complicated, and so often picked up by people who don't actually understand what they are doing
2021-08-14 12:00:46 +0200 <Tisoxin> i know lol
2021-08-14 12:00:59 +0200 <Tisoxin> . o O (Because I don't know what I'm doing)
2021-08-14 12:01:24 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> but why not just use flakes as is without all this shit
2021-08-14 12:01:43 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> theres just so much cognitive load for me now to try to figure out where your nixpkgs is coming from
2021-08-14 12:01:59 +0200 <Tisoxin> you don't have to help that much
2021-08-14 12:02:04 +0200 <Tisoxin> *to help me
2021-08-14 12:02:24 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> nixpkgs.follows = "nixos";
2021-08-14 12:02:24 +0200 <Tisoxin> The discussion with you already helped me a lot
2021-08-14 12:02:31 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> okay is it actually important to you to be on stable
2021-08-14 12:02:52 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> i think you probably need to be on unstable to actually use this flake
2021-08-14 12:03:03 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> but also you need to be on unstable to even compile xmonad on master at all anyway
2021-08-14 12:03:31 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> or i mean technically, you dont need to be on it (but then you have to use unstable JUST to compile xmonad)
2021-08-14 12:03:50 +0200 <elonsroadster[m]> and pull in the whole set of packages for ghc and all of xmonads dependencies from unstable (which will be a lot)
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2021-08-14 19:35:35 +0200 <unrooted> elonsroadster: I think it may not be enough, but I'd be satisfied enough to be just different from all those flashy neon configs there
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