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2021-07-24 02:51:02 +0200 <geekosaur> if you're still around, you might want to study zippers a bit before tackling StackSet.hs
2021-07-24 03:04:30 +0200 <geekosaur> hm. would someone with real hardware like to try to diagnose Platon Pronko's issue on the mailing list? I couldn't reproduce it locally but I can barely start Unity Editor on this laptop
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2021-07-24 05:41:27 +0200jmes(~james@d75-155-42-59.abhsia.telus.net)
2021-07-24 05:45:42 +0200 <jmes> Any idea how to write a function to shift the visible workspaces so that when I press a hotkey it pushes each visible workspace down one and the last wraps to the first?
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2021-07-24 11:09:56 +0200 <mc47> @tell jmes you might want to look at XMonad.Actions.CycleWS, I think it could do what you intend to do
2021-07-24 11:09:57 +0200 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2021-07-24 11:23:39 +0200 <jmes> mc47: ah thanks, swap{Next,Previous}Screen works for the 2 monitor case. Since I only use 2 I won't bother with making it work for N monitors.
2021-07-24 11:25:27 +0200 <jmes> s/Previous/Prev/
2021-07-24 11:51:30 +0200 <mc47> I read what you wrote again, and I'm not sure what you want
2021-07-24 11:51:46 +0200 <mc47> do you want to shift all the windows you have to the next workspace?
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2021-07-24 17:35:36 +0200Zevv(~Zevvvvv@not.connected.by.freedominter.net)
2021-07-24 17:36:31 +0200 <Zevv> Hi folks. I'm considering from moving to one screen after having two for a long time, but I'd really miss the desktop switching on to monitors. Is there a way to mimic the behavior of two monitors when having only one?
2021-07-24 17:36:45 +0200 <Zevv> So have it split and be able to pull up desktops on both halves?
2021-07-24 17:38:13 +0200 <geekosaur> XMonad.Layout.LayoutScreens?
2021-07-24 17:40:49 +0200 <Zevv> is there something this stuff can not do
2021-07-24 17:40:51 +0200 <Zevv> thanks geekosaur
2021-07-24 17:42:53 +0200 <geekosaur> one thing that can't do is relay it to clients, which may still open across both "screens" although xmonad will as usual try to tile them appropriately
2021-07-24 17:43:06 +0200 <geekosaur> this is most noticeable with floating windows
2021-07-24 17:43:47 +0200 <Zevv> well, that sounds very usable; I'll give this a spin on one of my screens before going on a shopping spree, but sounds like what I need
2021-07-24 17:43:51 +0200 <Zevv> cool
2021-07-24 17:44:22 +0200 <geekosaur> there are tricks you can play with xrandr if this isn't good enough
2021-07-24 17:46:27 +0200 <Zevv> but on xrandr it'll still be one logical screen I guess?
2021-07-24 17:47:06 +0200 <geekosaur> no, because of the ugly hack by which we get multiple screens in the first place
2021-07-24 17:47:34 +0200 <geekosaur> basuically you can carve up the root eindow any way you want with xrandr and it will accept it
2021-07-24 17:47:49 +0200 <Zevv> sweet. I didn't know that
2021-07-24 17:48:40 +0200 <geekosaur> (at least until the next time you plug in or unplug a monitor, at which point it goes back to what the monitors report)
2021-07-24 17:50:09 +0200 <Zevv> fair enough
2021-07-24 18:13:54 +0200 <liskin> Zevv: there's also https://chipsenkbeil.com/notes/linux-virtual-monitors-with-xrandr/, which basically turns one large screen into two at the xserver/xrandr/xinerama level so most (all?) apps should work just as well as with two actual monitors
2021-07-24 18:15:10 +0200 <liskin> I actually wanted to deprecate X.L.LayoutScreens in favor of this one, but I think there were still other valid uses of X.L.LayoutScreens, but I can't remember now what those were
2021-07-24 18:40:40 +0200 <Zevv> oh nice thanks
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2021-07-24 19:49:24 +0200benin03693(~benin@183.82.205.33) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
2021-07-24 20:04:05 +0200 <liskin> Solid: I'm working on the recompilation/installation stuff and I noticed xinitrc/xsession on Debian doesn't source .profile so xmonad isn't in $PATH; where do you set yours? in xinitrc?
2021-07-24 20:04:41 +0200 <liskin> (I downloaded a bunch of minimal .qcow2 images so I can test the procedure from minimal assumptions)
2021-07-24 20:09:11 +0200 <geekosaur> that's odd because I thought ubuntu inherited that behavior from debian
2021-07-24 20:10:21 +0200 <liskin> it's entirely possible I'm doing something wrong
2021-07-24 20:10:30 +0200 <liskin> maybe a different desktop manager would source it
2021-07-24 20:10:48 +0200 <liskin> obviously when logging into the text console and then doing startx it works
2021-07-24 20:12:40 +0200Zevv(~Zevvvvv@not.connected.by.freedominter.net) (thanks again ppl)
2021-07-24 20:20:09 +0200^[(~user@user//x-8473491)
2021-07-24 20:26:00 +0200 <liskin> oh, sddm's Xsession seems to source profile
2021-07-24 20:26:15 +0200 <liskin> but it needs a .desktop :-/
2021-07-24 20:27:29 +0200 <geekosaur> that would explain it, lightdm probably does the same
2021-07-24 20:27:44 +0200 <liskin> lightdm was the one that didn't
2021-07-24 20:28:23 +0200 <geekosaur> hm
2021-07-24 20:58:26 +0200 <Solid> liskin: I just have `exec "$XMONAD_CONFIG_DIR"/xmonad-x86_64-linux` in my xinitrc
2021-07-24 22:12:59 +0200 <liskin> Solid: oh, okay
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2021-07-24 22:20:13 +0200 <geekosaur> welp, turns out my start-xmonad wrapper sources my .profile so I may be wrong about anything else doing so
2021-07-24 22:20:26 +0200 <geekosaur> I hadn't looked at it in years
2021-07-24 22:20:57 +0200 <geekosaur> also I need to upload my current config at some point
2021-07-24 22:22:19 +0200 <liskin> well, we probably don't need to worry about this too much
2021-07-24 22:22:33 +0200 <liskin> people don't usually get stuck on this one
2021-07-24 22:23:31 +0200 <liskin> it's just that my method of verifying/improving INSTALL.md happens to be very detailed :-)