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2021-06-14 10:41:24 +0200tsujp(~tsujp@sourcehut/user/tsujp)
2021-06-14 10:41:59 +0200 <tsujp> if im on workspace 2 and I have firefox already open on workspace 1 how can I snap to firefox? can I use dmenu or gmrun to "snap" to firefox? i.e. take me to workspace 1 and focus firefox
2021-06-14 10:42:10 +0200 <tsujp> basically I want go "go to an already running instance of a program from anywhere"
2021-06-14 10:42:42 +0200 <tsujp> Is it WindowGo?
2021-06-14 10:43:22 +0200 <Solid> liskin: our location on twitter still says `#xmonad @ freenode`
2021-06-14 10:43:51 +0200 <Solid> tsujp: there is X.P.Window
2021-06-14 10:44:31 +0200 <tsujp> What's that? Cannot see it in the docs
2021-06-14 10:44:41 +0200 <tsujp> Solid
2021-06-14 10:44:53 +0200 <Solid> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib/docs/XMonad-Prompt-Window.html
2021-06-14 10:45:15 +0200 <tsujp> Lovely, thanks :)
2021-06-14 10:48:05 +0200tsujp(~tsujp@sourcehut/user/tsujp) (Quit: Connection closed)
2021-06-14 10:48:26 +0200 <liskin> Solid: well spotted, fixed
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2021-06-14 11:10:35 +0200 <backleet> how to fix
2021-06-14 11:10:47 +0200 <backleet> It is a member of the hidden package 'utf8-string'
2021-06-14 11:15:26 +0200 <backleet> ghc-pkg expose utf8-string says cannot find package utf8-string
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2021-06-14 13:25:24 +0200tsujp(~tsujp@sourcehut/user/tsujp)
2021-06-14 13:28:12 +0200 <tsujp> Hi friends I'm confused by this error, what am I doing wrong here? http://ix.io/3pVv
2021-06-14 13:28:23 +0200 <tsujp> I've installed xmonad and just want to launch to verify it works but I get this
2021-06-14 13:33:35 +0200 <tsujp> Hang on I should be doing this via X not manually derp
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2021-06-14 16:43:58 +0200 <Solid> https://www.libhunt.com/l/haskell/trending
2021-06-14 16:44:57 +0200 <Solid> we're number 6 on this seemingly very biased list of trending haskell projects
2021-06-14 16:45:03 +0200 <Solid> so yay (?)
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2021-06-14 17:11:33 +0200mc47(~mc47@xmonad/TheMC47)
2021-06-14 17:11:47 +0200 <mc47> that's cool
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2021-06-14 17:45:22 +0200 <Solid> hahahahahahaha
2021-06-14 17:45:29 +0200 <Solid> man I love stuff like this
2021-06-14 17:45:42 +0200 <Solid> #560 is a really funny issue
2021-06-14 17:46:31 +0200 <Solid> the tl;dr is that due to MonomorphismRestriction the inferred types of `desktopLayoutModifiers = avoidStruts` and `desktopLayoutModifiers layout = avoidStruts layout` are different and when we hlinted that it introduced funny behaviour because no type signatures
2021-06-14 17:50:08 +0200 <mc47> til
2021-06-14 17:50:26 +0200 <mc47> that file definitely needs an update though
2021-06-14 18:04:59 +0200wonko(~wjc@62.115.229.50) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2021-06-14 18:09:02 +0200 <tsujp> can xmonad set the key repeat rate and sensitivity or do I have to do that via xset rate ?
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2021-06-14 18:21:28 +0200 <Solid> tsujp: you'll have to do that via xset
2021-06-14 18:24:09 +0200 <tsujp> xset isn't working via my method of launching xmonad Solid, here's my (extremely simple) xinitrc: http://ix.io/3pX1
2021-06-14 18:26:23 +0200werneta(~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
2021-06-14 18:26:23 +0200 <tsujp> Spelling error even with correct `xmonad` spelling it still doesn't work
2021-06-14 18:26:27 +0200 <tsujp> pidof xmonad returns nothing
2021-06-14 18:27:16 +0200 <tsujp> oh duh because it's xmonad-x86_64-linux derp lemme try this instead
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2021-06-14 18:28:07 +0200 <tsujp> now it works, excuse me I was being a dumb dumb
2021-06-14 18:28:22 +0200 <Solid> ah don't worry about it :)
2021-06-14 18:30:31 +0200 <Solid> mc47: it does yes
2021-06-14 18:30:41 +0200 <Solid> my gut feeling would be to just include the file we build up in the tutorial
2021-06-14 18:30:47 +0200 <Solid> with some additional comments
2021-06-14 18:31:43 +0200 <mc47> I mean, do we need it?
2021-06-14 18:31:57 +0200 <mc47> I'd argue we'd do better without it
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2021-06-14 18:41:09 +0200 <Solid> mh perhaps that is true
2021-06-14 18:41:11 +0200 <Solid> I'm not sure
2021-06-14 18:54:21 +0200backleet(~mm@116.251.216.46)
2021-06-14 18:59:08 +0200 <backleet> "Could not load module ‘Codec.Binary.UTF8.String’ It is a member of the hidden package ‘utf8-string-1.0.2’. You can run ‘:set -package utf8-string’ to expose it."
2021-06-14 18:59:10 +0200 <backleet> how to fix this
2021-06-14 18:59:38 +0200 <backleet> utf8-string is installed
2021-06-14 19:00:28 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: How do you build xmonad?
2021-06-14 19:00:34 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: with xmonad --recompile
2021-06-14 19:00:45 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: How did you install utf8-string?
2021-06-14 19:01:06 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: didn't install it explicitly, probably a dep for another package?
2021-06-14 19:02:42 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: Asked differently, how did you install xmonad?
2021-06-14 19:03:06 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: oh, with cabal install xmonad --lib I think?
2021-06-14 19:03:24 +0200 <dminuoso> Then also run `cabal install --lib utf-8string` and hope things dont break. :)
2021-06-14 19:04:21 +0200 <backleet> it says rejecting ghc etc, can't resolve dependencies or something
2021-06-14 19:04:29 +0200 <dminuoso> Yeah I almost assumed as much
2021-06-14 19:05:01 +0200 <backleet> so need newer ghc?
2021-06-14 19:05:17 +0200 <dminuoso> Can you share the full output?
2021-06-14 19:05:28 +0200 <dminuoso> And no, the problem has to do with the way you're (mis)using cabal.
2021-06-14 19:05:55 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: I don't understand cabal, haskell lol just copy paste stuff until it works haha
2021-06-14 19:06:09 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: It's all fine. Just share the full output you got from the last command.
2021-06-14 19:06:44 +0200 <dminuoso> Modern `cabal` is designed to facilitate building isolated projects. You can roughly compare it with say `virtualenv` or maybe `yarn`.
2021-06-14 19:06:58 +0200 <backleet> https://dpaste.com/5YZPYVR24
2021-06-14 19:07:17 +0200 <dminuoso> Normally you have a file declaring dependencies. But outside a project, there's this weird bizarre global implicit project, and incrementally adding dependencies will quickly lead to unresolvable build plans
2021-06-14 19:07:39 +0200 <dminuoso> (Because rather than finding a build plan that satisfies multiple packages, each installed version leads to more fixed constraints)
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2021-06-14 19:09:55 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: I don't understand most of what you said, way over my head lol, is there reason why there's no practical way to uninstall cabal packages?
2021-06-14 19:09:57 +0200 <dminuoso> It seems like you upgraded ghc at some point, is that right?
2021-06-14 19:10:15 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: because this "global project" is not really its main mode of operation.
2021-06-14 19:10:18 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: not explicitly, maybe through distro's package manager (regular updates? rolling release)
2021-06-14 19:10:24 +0200 <dminuoso> Yeah, it's probably
2021-06-14 19:10:33 +0200 <dminuoso> Just nuke your cabal store
2021-06-14 19:11:09 +0200 <Solid> we need to purge every mention of people saying to use `cabal install --lib xmonad` from the web
2021-06-14 19:11:21 +0200 <dminuoso> +1
2021-06-14 19:11:30 +0200 <dminuoso> Or just `cabal install` at all
2021-06-14 19:12:09 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: just delete the entirety of your ~/.cabal I say
2021-06-14 19:12:19 +0200 <dminuoso> That's easier than going through the gory details
2021-06-14 19:12:30 +0200 <dminuoso> Or should ~/.ghc deleted be too?
2021-06-14 19:12:33 +0200werneta(~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
2021-06-14 19:12:36 +0200 <dminuoso> Im not sure. Delete both for good measure. :-)
2021-06-14 19:12:45 +0200 <Solid> :D
2021-06-14 19:13:16 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: ^- I'm not kidding by the way. There's probably a more precise way, but if you want the simple "give me a damn command solution", that's it.
2021-06-14 19:13:23 +0200 <Solid> backleet: if your distro doesn't package xmonad or you want to install a newer version, I'd recommend installing via a stack project as per the install instructions ( https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/blob/master/INSTALL.md )
2021-06-14 19:15:09 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: Normally `cabal` is for building projects, so each project would have a `foo.cabal` file declaring its build dependencies. And then you just run `cabal build`, it would automatically grab dependencies for this project in isolation behind the scenes (avoiding dependency hell), there's no way to "install/uninstall" dependencies anymore
2021-06-14 19:15:26 +0200backleet(~mm@116.251.216.46) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
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2021-06-14 19:16:58 +0200 <backleet> I got disconnected dminuoso, did you write anything?
2021-06-14 19:17:02 +0200 <dminuoso> xmonad is an odd candidate, because it requires this full compilation process. The proper way to fit this together is to have a my-xmonad project with a my-xmonad.cabal file, which declares the dependencies on xmonad, utf8-string and whatever else you want. This approach can be done, but it takes some minor additional work to play nice
2021-06-14 19:17:20 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: https://gist.github.com/dminuoso/9ba01b6d0d6722fdfb6a9212a035d861
2021-06-14 19:18:00 +0200 <Solid> (there's a channel logger available at https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lcxmonad )
2021-06-14 19:18:08 +0200 <dminuoso> Stack is an alternate solution to all of this, which has the benefit of being documented
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2021-06-14 19:18:41 +0200 <backleet> Solid: thanks!
2021-06-14 19:19:23 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: hmm, what do you think of the polybar issue? what is the best way to connect it to xmonad? Dbus, log file or ewmh?
2021-06-14 19:19:45 +0200 <dminuoso> What issue?
2021-06-14 19:20:46 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: oh man, I wrote, but I guess it didn't go through since I got disconnected.
2021-06-14 19:20:55 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: will try that, thanks! When using Xmonad + polybar will there be difference between │ burp
2021-06-14 19:20:57 +0200 <backleet> │ | logging workspace+layout data to file then reading it from polybar vs connecting to polybar │ By_JumperX4[m]
2021-06-14 19:20:59 +0200 <backleet> │ | through DBUS from xmonad code?
2021-06-14 19:21:06 +0200 <backleet> sorry
2021-06-14 19:21:13 +0200 <dminuoso> backleet: xmonad and dbus wont work well together out of the box
2021-06-14 19:21:19 +0200 <By_JumperX4[m]> wat
2021-06-14 19:21:48 +0200 <Solid> By_JumperX4[m]: accidental highlight :)
2021-06-14 19:21:48 +0200 <dminuoso> the main loop sleeps on XNextEvent(), so..
2021-06-14 19:22:08 +0200 <Solid> dminuoso: there is xmonad-log which enables this
2021-06-14 19:22:16 +0200 <Solid> many people use it with polybar afaik
2021-06-14 19:22:16 +0200 <dminuoso> sounds like black magic.
2021-06-14 19:22:33 +0200 <dminuoso> is xmonad-log a fork with a modified main loop?
2021-06-14 19:22:38 +0200 <Solid> or xmonad-dbus? I forget
2021-06-14 19:23:05 +0200 <dminuoso> Ahh, xmonad-log is a standalone solution I see.
2021-06-14 19:23:10 +0200 <dminuoso> Solid: Gotcha!
2021-06-14 19:23:17 +0200 <Solid> you have a whole xmonad.hs to play with, afterall :)
2021-06-14 19:23:28 +0200 <Solid> ah yes, I think xmonad-dbus is a rewrite of xmonad-log in haskell or something
2021-06-14 19:23:32 +0200dminuosois evil and glues all kinds of things into his xmonad
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2021-06-14 19:24:04 +0200 <dminuoso> I have confidence in GHCs ability to correctly elaborate my programs into core. So I dont mind if it runs yesod.
2021-06-14 19:24:10 +0200 <dminuoso> </sarcasm>
2021-06-14 19:24:12 +0200 <Solid> :>
2021-06-14 19:24:38 +0200 <Solid> backleet: writing to a file via pipes has the same issues that pipes usually have, if it fills up (when polybar stops reading from it) then xmonad could appear to freeze
2021-06-14 19:24:57 +0200 <Solid> dbus sounds like the more sensible solution, although it requires more setup
2021-06-14 19:25:35 +0200 <Solid> if polybar could read from X11 properties then that would be even better, as that's very well integrated into xmonad-contrib at this point
2021-06-14 19:27:09 +0200 <dminuoso> I mean heck, some people use emacs as their window manager. No reason I couldn't run yi directly from my xmonad.
2021-06-14 19:27:35 +0200 <dminuoso> That sounds evil, and perhaps like a hackathon project for this weekends zurihac
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2021-06-14 19:29:14 +0200 <Solid> is yi still alive?
2021-06-14 19:29:36 +0200rneese(~rneese@2600:6c5c:6a00:c4e3:7a41:5cd5:c96f:2ec2)
2021-06-14 19:29:40 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: Solid I found someones code implementing Dbus solution, ewmh works well for workspaces, but will have to output the rest of the data separately (layout mode), logging data to file then reading from polybar with tail -F has speed issues I think?
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2021-06-14 19:30:12 +0200 <dminuoso> tail is extremely efficiently implemented
2021-06-14 19:31:50 +0200 <backleet> dminuoso: I noticed lag in visuals when logging workspace data to file in older laptop
2021-06-14 19:33:10 +0200 <backleet> https://github.com/gvolpe/nix-config/blob/master/home/programs/xmonad/config.hs
2021-06-14 19:34:00 +0200 <backleet> Solid: will using Dbus method make workspaces clickable?
2021-06-14 19:36:13 +0200 <Solid> backleet: I don't believe it would do that by default
2021-06-14 19:36:24 +0200 <Solid> though I certainly think you _can_ make them clickable even via dbus
2021-06-14 19:36:57 +0200 <Solid> at least X.U.ClickableWorkspaces only modifies the PP record (which is something you still have)
2021-06-14 19:37:19 +0200 <Solid> (I have never used the above module, nor polybar, nor dbus, so no guarantees :))
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2021-06-14 19:41:10 +0200 <backleet> thanks Solid dminuoso
2021-06-14 19:45:25 +0200 <backleet> Solid: do yo use xmobar? is it possible to make elements in it clickable for ex. wifi icon etc. Main reason I'm switching to polybar
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2021-06-14 20:19:30 +0200 <Solid> ?tell backleet I do use xmobar yes. I don't think what you want is (easily) possible with xmobar, no, so you are probably better off just using polybar
2021-06-14 20:19:30 +0200 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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2021-06-14 20:58:24 +0200 <liskin> dminuoso: will you be at zurihac?
2021-06-14 20:59:30 +0200 <liskin> (I still don't know about myself, there's been awfully little information about the hackathon part of it so I may as well just prioritize my vacation instead.)
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2021-06-14 21:45:36 +0200 <dminuoso> liskin: As far as current plans go, yes.
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