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| 2021-05-22 01:06:35 +0200 | <cheater1> | hi |
| 2021-05-22 01:06:42 +0200 | <cheater1> | are there any libera operators here? |
| 2021-05-22 01:07:24 +0200 | <cheater1> | (i can't connect) |
| 2021-05-22 01:09:46 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 01:09:48 +0200 | viluon | (uid453725@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ioyodhawmfcdrmea) (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) |
| 2021-05-22 01:09:54 +0200 | <geekosaur> | they've been bouncing in and out of channel and antispam caught them |
| 2021-05-22 01:10:18 +0200 | <boxscape> | cheater1 I imagine this isn't the long-term solution you're looking for, but with https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/ you should be able to connect to port 6667 on irc.libera.chat and then maybe you can get more detailed help there in #libera |
| 2021-05-22 01:11:14 +0200 | <cheater1> | geekosaur: i haven't been bouncing on libera, it just randomly disconnected me |
| 2021-05-22 01:11:33 +0200 | <cheater1> | geekosaur: my bouncing just now happened after i got klined (i so happened to have internet problems for half an hour) |
| 2021-05-22 01:11:35 +0200 | <boxscape> | Ah I didn't realize you managed to connect before |
| 2021-05-22 01:12:08 +0200 | <geekosaur> | I checked backlog, there was a lot of cheater1____ and such |
| 2021-05-22 01:15:17 +0200 | Gurkenglas | (~Gurkengla@unaffiliated/gurkenglas) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 01:17:48 +0200 | <cheater1> | geekosaur: yes. meanwhile no disconnects on freenode |
| 2021-05-22 01:20:31 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2021-05-22 01:20:40 +0200 | <__monty__> | I've had a couple disconnects on Libera too. |
| 2021-05-22 01:21:27 +0200 | <geekosaur> | interesting. only disconnects I've had so far were locally generated (my network is not the best) |
| 2021-05-22 01:22:23 +0200 | <__monty__> | Might have been local for me too but they only happen on Libera. |
| 2021-05-22 01:25:46 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@83-160-49-249.ip.xs4all.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 01:26:38 +0200 | stormbreaker | (4d6ff627@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.111.246.39) |
| 2021-05-22 01:29:42 +0200 | <wroathe> | I was disconnected in the middle of trying to register my account, which is the only time I've logged in so far |
| 2021-05-22 01:29:49 +0200 | <wroathe> | I've connected so far* |
| 2021-05-22 01:30:00 +0200 | <wroathe> | They're clearly having some stability issues |
| 2021-05-22 01:34:08 +0200 | nbloomf | (~nbloomf@2600:1700:ad14:3020:8d84:1399:f99d:6f28) |
| 2021-05-22 01:34:31 +0200 | ddellacosta | (ddellacost@gateway/vpn/mullvad/ddellacosta) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 01:36:57 +0200 | <edwardk> | i had a brief problem with nickserv when i connected to the server there the first time (it wasn't able to send out the email at first), but its been rock solid for me since |
| 2021-05-22 01:37:26 +0200 | <edwardk> | cheater1: is this why you were asking about the ttl? |
| 2021-05-22 01:37:37 +0200 | puke | (~vroom@217.138.252.58) |
| 2021-05-22 01:39:22 +0200 | <cheater1> | yes |
| 2021-05-22 01:39:32 +0200 | <cheater1> | edwardk: why are flags on #haskell on libera not public? |
| 2021-05-22 01:40:19 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | is gl a wrapper around some other c-library? https://hackage.haskell.org/package/gl |
| 2021-05-22 01:40:23 +0200 | <edwardk> | cheater1: assume everythng like that is probably an act of omission rather than comission |
| 2021-05-22 01:40:38 +0200 | Jesin | (~Jesin@pool-72-66-101-18.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 2021-05-22 01:40:47 +0200 | <cheater1> | this + founder flag should be public |
| 2021-05-22 01:40:56 +0200 | <cheater1> | (they're separate settings) |
| 2021-05-22 01:41:11 +0200 | <cheater1> | you had to disable them manually for them to be private |
| 2021-05-22 01:41:13 +0200 | <edwardk> | cheater1: yeah someone mentioned it the other day. technically the channel as 'founded' by glguy and i had been given access |
| 2021-05-22 01:41:32 +0200 | <edwardk> | the channel was set up before libera went live, some settings got tweaked along the way |
| 2021-05-22 01:42:21 +0200 | <edwardk> | there was a 'hey did you do that? no, i didn't either' conversation with me and glguy the other day asking this same thing |
| 2021-05-22 01:43:10 +0200 | <cheater1> | can you please enable it, so that the community knows what's going on. |
| 2021-05-22 01:43:17 +0200 | <geekosaur> | ezzieyguywuf, the package description says yes (and, well, it'd have to be really) |
| 2021-05-22 01:43:41 +0200 | <cheater1> | works now |
| 2021-05-22 01:43:45 +0200 | <cheater1> | thanks |
| 2021-05-22 01:43:55 +0200 | <cheater1> | if you didn't do anything, someone changed it since last time i checke |
| 2021-05-22 01:43:55 +0200 | <cheater1> | d |
| 2021-05-22 01:44:03 +0200 | <edwardk> | i didn't do anything ;) |
| 2021-05-22 01:44:13 +0200 | <edwardk> | i was in the process of trying to figure out how to set it |
| 2021-05-22 01:44:23 +0200 | zebrag | (~inkbottle@alagny-155-1-30-195.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) |
| 2021-05-22 01:44:44 +0200 | zebrag | (~inkbottle@alagny-155-1-30-195.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 2021-05-22 01:44:56 +0200 | Cale | (~cale@cpef48e38ee8583-cm0c473de9d680.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 01:46:09 +0200 | <cheater1> | probably glguy set it |
| 2021-05-22 01:47:38 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | geekosaur: yea, but digging through the source repo it looks like the c-stuff is auto-generated from the specification xml |
| 2021-05-22 01:47:54 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | amazing. +1 kmett |
| 2021-05-22 01:48:26 +0200 | <edwardk> | ezzieyguywuf: the gl package? |
| 2021-05-22 01:48:48 +0200 | <geekosaur> | but it also links against the platform-appropriate library |
| 2021-05-22 01:49:15 +0200 | <edwardk> | whenever that thing gets updated we tend to be more current than anybody in the gl world, which is kinda nice |
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| 2021-05-22 02:54:48 +0200 | stormbreaker | (4d6ff627@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.111.246.39) () |
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| 2021-05-22 03:08:26 +0200 | nvmd | (~nvmd@177.30.111.232) |
| 2021-05-22 03:09:10 +0200 | a6a45081-2b83 | (~aditya@122.163.181.9) |
| 2021-05-22 03:10:08 +0200 | <a6a45081-2b83> | can someone explain libera.chat vs freenode.net situation? |
| 2021-05-22 03:10:09 +0200 | Kaiepi | (~Kaiepi@nwcsnbsc03w-47-54-173-93.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2021-05-22 03:10:50 +0200 | Rudd0 | (~Rudd0@185.189.115.103) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 03:11:36 +0200 | <geekosaur> | https://kline.sh and https://mniip.com/freenode.txt, basically |
| 2021-05-22 03:11:43 +0200 | <kline> | hi |
| 2021-05-22 03:12:34 +0200 | <geekosaur> | so freenode is now operated by rasengan (Andrew Lee) who can't even tell that the spam hitting his shiny new network is also hitting everyone else's networks, which doesn't speak well for him |
| 2021-05-22 03:13:26 +0200 | <geekosaur> | (libera included) |
| 2021-05-22 03:13:28 +0200 | whitgreenlghtsbr | (~egp_@2.95.227.103) (Quit: EXIT) |
| 2021-05-22 03:13:31 +0200 | <a6a45081-2b83> | apart from irc, is there a discord, telegram or other prominent haskell group |
| 2021-05-22 03:14:05 +0200 | <a6a45081-2b83> | does server - channel have 1-N relationship or M-N relationship, I'm asking if I connect to #haskell from libera.chat... |
| 2021-05-22 03:14:18 +0200 | <geekosaur> | there's a linked matrix channel. otherwise I think not really |
| 2021-05-22 03:14:41 +0200 | <geekosaur> | libera and freenode are not linked, and one suspects a link would be frowned upon |
| 2021-05-22 03:14:48 +0200 | <ornxka> | a6a45081-2b83: somebody bought freenode, the freenode staff assumed they would be a sugar daddy and pay their bills and let everything continue on as usual while not actually exercising any control or directing policy, he then started trying to direct policy and now all the staff have left and started a new network that is under their direct control |
| 2021-05-22 03:16:35 +0200 | whitgreenlghtsbr | (~egp_@2.95.227.103) |
| 2021-05-22 03:16:50 +0200 | <a6a45081-2b83> | hmm, sounds typical and at the same time bad for the staff members |
| 2021-05-22 03:22:21 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@83-160-49-249.ip.xs4all.nl) |
| 2021-05-22 03:23:08 +0200 | raehik | (~raehik@cpc95906-rdng25-2-0-cust156.15-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 2021-05-22 03:23:25 +0200 | <wroathe> | How does one go about getting one of these "sugar daddies"? |
| 2021-05-22 03:23:30 +0200 | <wroathe> | Asking for a friend |
| 2021-05-22 03:23:37 +0200 | <a6a45081-2b83> | rofl |
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| 2021-05-22 03:29:06 +0200 | <arahael> | ornxka: not quite, the servers and other stuff were donated/volunteered, and why would the staff care about some UK company that hasnt had their bills paid for so long they are about to be struck off the registar? |
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| 2021-05-22 03:35:27 +0200 | <arahael> | so long and thanks for the fish! |
| 2021-05-22 03:35:31 +0200 | arahael | (~arahael@203-206-83-196.tpgi.com.au) ("WeeChat 2.7.1") |
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| 2021-05-22 04:29:42 +0200 | LiberaStaff | (~comcat@gateway/tor-sasl/comcat) |
| 2021-05-22 04:30:30 +0200 | a6a45081-2b83 | (~aditya@122.163.181.9) |
| 2021-05-22 04:31:10 +0200 | <edwardk> | ornxka: to be fair, til things blew up, nobody but maybe christel who isn't talking seemed to think that said 'sugar daddy' really owned anything, that freenode ltd existed to just run freenode #live, afterall, nobody was getting paid and all the hardware was donated. then he started demanding access and people started quitting rather than giving to him |
| 2021-05-22 04:32:40 +0200 | <edwardk> | a6a45081-2b83: yeah sadly, libera's #haskell and freenode's #haskell are separately little bubbles. |
| 2021-05-22 04:32:50 +0200 | <edwardk> | er separate |
| 2021-05-22 04:32:56 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | edwardk: yes the gl package. |
| 2021-05-22 04:33:21 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | I couldn't remember your nick - very nice package :) |
| 2021-05-22 04:33:39 +0200 | <edwardk> | ezzieyguywuf: i shipped gl in response to carmack bouncing off haskell because our opengl bindings were ... hard to use. |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:03 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | edwardk: I saw some reddit post or something you made about why you did glfw-b |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:05 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:05 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Excess Flood) |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:08 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | I assume that's all related? |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:18 +0200 | <edwardk> | i didn't do glfw-b, actually |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:24 +0200 | tefter | (bmaxa@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/tefter) |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:28 +0200 | <edwardk> | maybe quine? |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:36 +0200 | <wroathe> | That's too bad. Getting Carmack onboard would've done a lot for functional programming and gaming |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:44 +0200 | <edwardk> | the #haskell-game folks did all the other stuff like sdl, etc |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:51 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | ah, drat |
| 2021-05-22 04:34:53 +0200 | <edwardk> | wroathe: it made me sad |
| 2021-05-22 04:35:35 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2021-05-22 04:35:49 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | I've been brushing up on opengl for an interview next week (😯 i can't believe someone actually wants to interview me) - I'm a bit surprised that I didn't need to use something like glew or glad in my opengl haskell code |
| 2021-05-22 04:36:09 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | is that somehow handled behind-the-scenes? |
| 2021-05-22 04:36:14 +0200 | <edwardk> | yeah |
| 2021-05-22 04:37:09 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | in a cross-platform way? how? is the glew/glad stuff essentially re-written? |
| 2021-05-22 04:38:24 +0200 | <edwardk> | basically we hook in in a similar fashion and i codegen something that manufactures a thunk for each function once each time it has to get it from the driver |
| 2021-05-22 04:38:39 +0200 | falafel | (~falafel@2600:8800:4700:53f0:f53c:2c68:6b15:1c2d) |
| 2021-05-22 04:39:13 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | dang bro - no idea what that means but seems damned impressive |
| 2021-05-22 04:39:32 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | "codegen" and "from the driver" seem to stand out |
| 2021-05-22 04:39:33 +0200 | carlomagno | (~cararell@148.87.23.4) |
| 2021-05-22 04:39:40 +0200 | <edwardk> | there's a few compile options that set up https://github.com/ekmett/gl/blob/master/gl/cbits/gl.c which exports a void * hs_gl_getProcAddress(const char *name) -- that lets us ask the opengl driver for functions by name. then i set up machinery that caches them all based on the contents of that xml document |
| 2021-05-22 04:40:42 +0200 | <edwardk> | in 99.9% of the scenarios you need opengl for, this 'just works'. there's a vanishingly small fraction of the time when you need to run multiple instances of opengl in a given process where the scheme i use would need to be elaborated upon |
| 2021-05-22 04:41:20 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2021-05-22 04:41:22 +0200 | <edwardk> | e.g. if you need a legacy opengl 2 context and an opengl 4.1 context, because say, you are writing some kind of application that needs to interop with a bunch of ancient crufty opengl code _and_ qt quick or something |
| 2021-05-22 04:41:46 +0200 | <edwardk> | but those are really rare cases |
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| 2021-05-22 04:43:31 +0200 | ChanServ | +o Sigyn |
| 2021-05-22 04:44:01 +0200 | <edwardk> | in those scenarios then some code i offer might have the wrong semantics. e.g. https://github.com/ekmett/gl/blob/master/gl/src/Graphics/GL/Internal/Proc.hs#L58 assumes it can enumerate all the extensions once and for all, because you won't be using several opengl drivers at the same time, without it i'd have to give back an IO action, and then you couldn't use the little feature flag detectors as pattern guards without making your own |
| 2021-05-22 04:44:01 +0200 | <edwardk> | copies of them and passing them around. |
| 2021-05-22 04:44:12 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | hm, maybe I misunderstood what glew was doing, but I thought it was a bunch of preprocessor stuff that was like `#if NVIDIA_TI_1050I (then do this thing) #if NEWER_NVIDIA (do this other thing)` etc. |
| 2021-05-22 04:44:58 +0200 | LiberaStaff | (~comcat@gateway/tor-sasl/comcat) (Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))) |
| 2021-05-22 04:45:09 +0200 | <edwardk> | nah, we don't need to do anything like that, we ask the driver for the extension set, and the extensions are all documented and comply (mostly) with the xml specification from khronos modulo a couple glaring errors |
| 2021-05-22 04:45:20 +0200 | <edwardk> | that tells us the signature of the functions, and the names of the constants |
| 2021-05-22 04:45:44 +0200 | <edwardk> | so i package them up in modules using a boatload of ad hoc preprocessing and fetch standard documentation and try to include it |
| 2021-05-22 04:45:50 +0200 | <edwardk> | and poof, opengl. |
| 2021-05-22 04:46:02 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | awesome |
| 2021-05-22 04:46:22 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | now I'm trying to read up on "carmack bouncing off haskell" |
| 2021-05-22 04:46:27 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | he seems like a pretty important dude |
| 2021-05-22 04:47:09 +0200 | <edwardk> | he talked about it at quakecon at one point. he and his son settled into doing some gamedev stuff in racket afterwards. i treated it like a personal failing on the part of haskell and took some time to try to avoid that sort of failure in the future |
| 2021-05-22 04:48:05 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | i'm watching the quackecon thing now |
| 2021-05-22 04:48:13 +0200 | <edwardk> | so gl was to make it so using opengl wasn't just observably worse than working in other languages. (the old opengl binding would kinda sorta let you work with opengl 3.3 but nothing newer, but forced you to use weird haskelly names for everything and had no documentation and hid internals from you preventing you from gracefully degrading to use the 'raw' bindings when you got stuck |
| 2021-05-22 04:48:55 +0200 | <edwardk> | and i've done a couple passes on building higher level bindings, and started playing around with signed distance field rendering and the like. nowadays the latter is pretty common actually, shadertoy popularized the shit out of it |
| 2021-05-22 04:48:59 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | edwardk: I can say - and this coming from someone that knew zero about opengl - my experience in haskell was very nice |
| 2021-05-22 04:49:10 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | I was able to follow right along with the learnopengl.com thing |
| 2021-05-22 04:49:27 +0200 | <edwardk> | i'm very heartened to hear that. that was precisely my goal with shipping gl |
| 2021-05-22 04:49:45 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | there were one or two things early on that I ended up peeking at some dude's code, who also tried to do learnopengl in haskell. but it wasn't specific to the bindings at all, it was haskell-specific stuff |
| 2021-05-22 04:49:56 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | (i.e. like pointers and peek etc) |
| 2021-05-22 04:50:03 +0200 | <edwardk> | yeah |
| 2021-05-22 04:50:06 +0200 | <mniip> | yikes |
| 2021-05-22 04:50:07 +0200 | <edwardk> | haskell ffi is a strange beast |
| 2021-05-22 04:50:15 +0200 | <edwardk> | mniip: yikes? |
| 2021-05-22 04:52:23 +0200 | <mniip> | I've had several people assume that the spam is ours |
| 2021-05-22 04:52:46 +0200 | <edwardk> | mniip: the 'move to libera.chat' stuff? |
| 2021-05-22 04:52:56 +0200 | <mniip> | yeah |
| 2021-05-22 04:53:10 +0200 | <edwardk> | seems to be the usual crowd of shit-stirrers |
| 2021-05-22 04:53:34 +0200 | <mniip> | it is |
| 2021-05-22 04:53:37 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | hah, the whole gentoo crew seems to be moving |
| 2021-05-22 04:53:46 +0200 | <ezzieyguywuf> | *shrug* I registered the nick and figured I'd wait for the dust to settle. |
| 2021-05-22 04:54:10 +0200 | <mniip> | it's not hard to figure out who it is if you've been on freenode for a while |
| 2021-05-22 04:54:34 +0200 | <edwardk> | i've mostly moved over. i lurk in here to do what i can here and there but i expect if i lost connection to freenode on irccloud i'd probably fail to notice it. |
| 2021-05-22 04:54:40 +0200 | <ski> | mniip : spam's occuring on multiple other networks, too |
| 2021-05-22 04:54:49 +0200 | <mniip> | makes sense |
| 2021-05-22 04:54:51 +0200 | <edwardk> | i'm rather heartened at quite how many folks have made the move |
| 2021-05-22 04:54:58 +0200 | <mniip> | yup |
| 2021-05-22 04:55:06 +0200 | <edwardk> | my expectation a priori was that it'd be a third of what we got |
| 2021-05-22 04:55:18 +0200 | sm | (~user@li229-222.members.linode.com) |
| 2021-05-22 04:55:21 +0200 | sm | (~user@li229-222.members.linode.com) ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 27.0.50)") |
| 2021-05-22 04:55:32 +0200 | <edwardk> | my faith in humanity's ability to see what is going on around it grew three sizes that day. |
| 2021-05-22 04:57:08 +0200 | <edwardk> | the first couple of days we got mostly people doing what i'm doing and trying to keep one foot on each boat (even if i've put trusted most of my weight on libera), today i'm noticing that the channel here has hollowed out by 15-20%, seems more people are just leaving rather than splitting between servers. |
| 2021-05-22 04:57:08 +0200 | plutoniix | (~q@node-usl.pool-125-24.dynamic.totinternet.net) |
| 2021-05-22 04:59:27 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2021-05-22 04:59:47 +0200 | danso | (~dan@23-233-111-52.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 2021-05-22 05:07:36 +0200 | Boarders | (sid425905@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wiacsxledaeudbti) () |
| 2021-05-22 05:09:33 +0200 | <edwardk> | mniip: i've really been amused at andrews's attempts to "set the record straight" with half-out-of-context snippets of chat transcripts and glaring timeline omissions. just enough flak to keep the folks who aren't paying attention at the 'he said, she said, what is truth anyways?' level |
| 2021-05-22 05:09:36 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Excess Flood) |
| 2021-05-22 05:10:06 +0200 | stree | (~stree@68.36.8.116) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 05:10:25 +0200 | <edwardk> | or i guess i would be amused, if i didn't notice a percentage of folks actually buying the charm offensive. weird |
| 2021-05-22 05:10:43 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2021-05-22 05:15:54 +0200 | Tario | (~Tario@201.192.165.173) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 05:16:46 +0200 | <wroathe> | edwardk: I'm still waiting on the channels I'm in to commit ;) |
| 2021-05-22 05:17:21 +0200 | <wroathe> | ##c is literally going to keep both channels operating in parallel until they've got more information |
| 2021-05-22 05:17:50 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | (~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362) |
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| 2021-05-22 05:18:31 +0200 | <edwardk> | wroathe: my experience is you rarely get a complete move after a split, you get half, then a bunch of people lurk, one goes quiet, no op maintenance is done and it goes with a whimper not a bang |
| 2021-05-22 05:18:58 +0200 | <mniip> | I was not expecting to get half |
| 2021-05-22 05:19:12 +0200 | Lord_of_Life_ | Lord_of_Life |
| 2021-05-22 05:19:42 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 05:19:51 +0200 | <edwardk> | i learned algorithms and data structures because after the ircnet/efnet split all the good programmers left the #coders channel, and so i had to find my way onto the ircnet side of the divide through the one server that'd let me in from america and then found the entire #coders channel had turned into a scandinavian demoscene subcommunity once the normies went away. |
| 2021-05-22 05:20:31 +0200 | <edwardk> | so i do suspect that some culture drift is possible, though, there it was particularly bad, because one side just couldn't connect to the other without jumping through crazy hoops, and that's not the case here |
| 2021-05-22 05:21:06 +0200 | <mniip> | I was anticipating some split between here, there, and giving up on IRC for good, with at least 10k in each |
| 2021-05-22 05:22:12 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2021-05-22 05:22:42 +0200 | stree | (~stree@68.36.8.116) |
| 2021-05-22 05:26:43 +0200 | ddellacosta | (~ddellacos@86.106.143.217) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 05:26:52 +0200 | ddellacosta | (~ddellacos@86.106.143.217) |
| 2021-05-22 05:28:14 +0200 | tamiko | (~tamiko@gentoo/developer/tamiko) |
| 2021-05-22 05:29:14 +0200 | <edwardk> | do you have a sense of relative total server populations? |
| 2021-05-22 05:29:19 +0200 | tamiko | (~tamiko@gentoo/developer/tamiko) () |
| 2021-05-22 05:29:41 +0200 | <mniip> | /lusers |
| 2021-05-22 05:29:58 +0200 | a6a45081-2b83 | (~aditya@122.163.181.9) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 05:32:58 +0200 | polyaletheia | (~polyaleth@c-24-18-229-32.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 2021-05-22 05:33:20 +0200 | <edwardk> | ok so 5:1 or so globally, and maybe 2:5 in the haskell ecosystem that have moved |
| 2021-05-22 05:33:56 +0200 | <edwardk> | i suspect a fairly large percentage of lurker population are going to wind up staying behind on freenode |
| 2021-05-22 05:34:31 +0200 | <mniip> | I can confirm first hand that there's people who will connect in 2 years and be like "huh something happen?" |
| 2021-05-22 05:34:50 +0200 | <wroathe> | huh, something happen? |
| 2021-05-22 05:36:13 +0200 | <edwardk> | sure, when i tune out from irc i tune out hard, too |
| 2021-05-22 05:37:15 +0200 | ddellacosta | (~ddellacos@86.106.143.217) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 05:42:56 +0200 | digzom | (~dickson@177.37.242.210) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 05:48:09 +0200 | <monochrom> | This migration is a bit different because whichever network https://www.haskell.org/irc/ points at holds sway for future newcomers. |
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| 2021-05-22 05:49:21 +0200 | DTZUZU | (~DTZUZO@205.ip-149-56-132.net) |
| 2021-05-22 05:50:41 +0200 | <wroathe> | monochrom: That's been one of my key points when talking to ops in a few channels here |
| 2021-05-22 05:51:12 +0200 | DTZUZU_ | (~DTZUZO@207.81.119.43) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 05:51:46 +0200 | nbloomf | (~nbloomf@2600:1700:ad14:3020:8d84:1399:f99d:6f28) (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2021-05-22 05:51:54 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2021-05-22 05:52:12 +0200 | werneta | (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 2021-05-22 05:52:15 +0200 | <wroathe> | I'll move to libera when enough links like the one on that page get updated. |
| 2021-05-22 05:52:59 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@83-160-49-249.ip.xs4all.nl) |
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| 2021-05-22 05:56:51 +0200 | nbloomf | (~nbloomf@2600:1700:ad14:3020:8d84:1399:f99d:6f28) |
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| 2021-05-22 06:02:14 +0200 | gxt | (~gxt@gateway/tor-sasl/gxt) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 06:02:34 +0200 | gxt | (~gxt@gateway/tor-sasl/gxt) |
| 2021-05-22 06:06:17 +0200 | Sheilong | (uid293653@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krnmlpgvyfftvtpx) () |
| 2021-05-22 06:06:31 +0200 | mhz | (~msgctl@ometochtli.centzontotochtin.org) (Quit: WeeChat 1.6) |
| 2021-05-22 06:07:31 +0200 | whitgreenlghtsbr | (~egp_@2.95.227.103) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 06:09:04 +0200 | <edwardk> | monochrom: https://github.com/haskell-infra/www.haskell.org/pull/84/files has merged, but not deployed? |
| 2021-05-22 06:09:37 +0200 | <edwardk> | i'd ping sclv here, but er.. he already moved |
| 2021-05-22 06:10:39 +0200 | <monochrom> | Not deployed. I have double-checked with using an entirely different browser I normally don't use. |
| 2021-05-22 06:11:08 +0200 | <edwardk> | k |
| 2021-05-22 06:11:33 +0200 | <edwardk> | davean: what's the update process usually used for the webpage? |
| 2021-05-22 06:12:09 +0200 | <edwardk> | my vision of wroathe, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRjwbrP9wKw&t=38s |
| 2021-05-22 06:12:26 +0200 | Rudd0 | (~Rudd0@185.189.115.103) |
| 2021-05-22 06:13:08 +0200 | unlink2 | (~unlink2@p200300ebcf119100afa982f7047d8a7f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 2021-05-22 06:13:13 +0200 | unlink2 | (~unlink2@p200300ebcf119100afa982f7047d8a7f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 06:13:23 +0200 | <wroathe> | edwardk: Except I'm flanked by all of the users in ##c and ##javascript that still seem hesitant to commit :P |
| 2021-05-22 06:13:40 +0200 | <wroathe> | edwardk: So imagine that, but like a warehouse of us that you're turning the lights out on |
| 2021-05-22 06:13:46 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 06:15:03 +0200 | <edwardk> | ok, so basically a room full of 5,000 "this is fine" dogs |
| 2021-05-22 06:15:24 +0200 | <wroathe> | Well, in that situation we've got the flames keeping the lights on. |
| 2021-05-22 06:15:32 +0200 | <wroathe> | So we've got that going for us, which is nice. |
| 2021-05-22 06:15:39 +0200 | alx741 | (~alx741@186.178.109.76) (Quit: alx741) |
| 2021-05-22 06:15:40 +0200 | <monochrom> | We are warm for the rest of our lives. |
| 2021-05-22 06:15:40 +0200 | <edwardk> | you've got it all planned out |
| 2021-05-22 06:16:20 +0200 | <wroathe> | edwardk: Funny how every programmer everywhere immediately related to that image |
| 2021-05-22 06:16:35 +0200 | <wroathe> | edwardk: I find programmers from all walks of life have seen that particular image |
| 2021-05-22 06:16:41 +0200 | Codaraxis_ | (Codaraxis@gateway/vpn/mullvad/codaraxis) |
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| 2021-05-22 06:20:50 +0200 | begriffs | (~begriffs@unaffiliated/begriffs) |
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| 2021-05-22 06:25:42 +0200 | carlomagno | (~cararell@148.87.23.5) |
| 2021-05-22 06:26:15 +0200 | <sm[m]> | hehe |
| 2021-05-22 06:27:03 +0200 | <sm[m]> | if you've read Consider Phlebas... I am picturing the slow-crashing megaship |
| 2021-05-22 06:27:18 +0200 | merijn | (~merijn@83-160-49-249.ip.xs4all.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 06:28:35 +0200 | <monochrom> | A lot of movies have scenes of slow-crashing/wrecking megaships, too. |
| 2021-05-22 06:29:25 +0200 | <wroathe> | Independence Day |
| 2021-05-22 06:30:04 +0200 | <edwardk> | sm[m]: oh, you mean like my crypto holdings this week! |
| 2021-05-22 06:30:29 +0200 | <kline> | wroathe, #C on libera has ~300 users now, so its not a terrible situation |
| 2021-05-22 06:31:00 +0200 | <kline> | realistically they are going to be among the more active users as well rather than the idlers who havent realised whats going on |
| 2021-05-22 06:31:59 +0200 | icebreaker | (michalc@unaffiliated/icebreaker) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2021-05-22 06:32:26 +0200 | <wroathe> | kline: Yeah, but the ops have made it clear that they're not committing either way as of right now |
| 2021-05-22 06:32:46 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2021-05-22 06:34:01 +0200 | <kline> | i love C conservatism |
| 2021-05-22 06:34:04 +0200 | <kline> | sincerely |
| 2021-05-22 06:34:05 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 2021-05-22 06:34:19 +0200 | <kline> | its this same attitude that differentiates it from C++ |
| 2021-05-22 06:34:24 +0200 | <kline> | just perhaps a little misapplied |
| 2021-05-22 06:34:32 +0200 | carlomagno | (~cararell@148.87.23.5) (Quit: Leaving.) |
| 2021-05-22 06:38:21 +0200 | <begriffs> | kline: so true. That's why I invested so much in C over the past few years after being a Haskeller. I like stuff to keep working. |
| 2021-05-22 06:38:38 +0200 | malumore | (~malumore@151.62.117.22) |
| 2021-05-22 06:39:24 +0200 | monochrom | (trebla@216.138.220.146) (Quit: NO CARRIER) |
| 2021-05-22 06:40:25 +0200 | <wroathe> | I did it for the lulz |
| 2021-05-22 06:43:03 +0200 | monochrom | (trebla@216.138.220.146) |
| 2021-05-22 06:43:58 +0200 | star_cloud | (~star_clou@ec2-34-220-44-120.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) (Excess Flood) |
| 2021-05-22 06:44:01 +0200 | <begriffs> | Surprised that Haskell still uses IRC. The use of a proven technology and restraint from making a breaking change to a random browser-based chat platform is off-brand. ;) |
| 2021-05-22 06:44:41 +0200 | <wroathe> | They were too lazy to change |
| 2021-05-22 06:44:47 +0200 | wroathe | ba-dum-tsh |
| 2021-05-22 06:45:04 +0200 | <sm[m]> | begriffs: I invested heavily in Haskell because I like stuff to keep working. :( |
| 2021-05-22 06:45:17 +0200 | <kline> | theres room for both |
| 2021-05-22 06:45:26 +0200 | <sm[m]> | your remark fills me with doubt |
| 2021-05-22 06:45:27 +0200 | <kline> | haskell and c both "keep working" in different aspects |
| 2021-05-22 06:45:32 +0200 | killsushi | (~killsushi@2607:fea8:3d40:767:541f:73f1:5270:5763) |
| 2021-05-22 06:45:34 +0200 | <begriffs> | Well haskell is now a single-implementation GHC show where the toolchain breaks every 1.5 years, so have fun with that. :) |
| 2021-05-22 06:45:49 +0200 | <sm[m]> | kline: that's a good way to say it |
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| 2021-05-22 06:46:21 +0200 | <sm[m]> | agh begriffs you're killing me :) |
| 2021-05-22 06:46:33 +0200 | <sm[m]> | lalalala everything is fine |
| 2021-05-22 06:46:45 +0200 | <wroathe> | this is fine |
| 2021-05-22 06:53:17 +0200 | doublex | (~doublex@2601:542:c480:6ee0:184b:7083:f026:c689) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
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| 2021-05-22 07:11:13 +0200 | <begriffs> | sm[m]: hey I'm reflecting on this and apologize for being negative. Sometimes I get gloomy and it's not helpful. |
| 2021-05-22 07:15:01 +0200 | a6a45081-2b83 | (~aditya@122.163.181.9) |
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| 2021-05-22 07:18:29 +0200 | <sm[m]> | begriffs: it's no problem :) we do need to look at things critically, I'm just hoping I haven't been fooling myself |
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| 2021-05-22 07:18:43 +0200 | sm[m] | has been hacking python today, which does not keep working (but it's easy!) |
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