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2021-05-17 20:12:37 +0200 <Solid> let x = fromConfExt =<< typeRep x `M.lookup` extensibleConf c in x
2021-05-17 20:12:41 +0200 <Solid> this breaks my brain a little
2021-05-17 20:12:45 +0200 <Solid> why does this terminate?
2021-05-17 20:14:26 +0200 <geekosaur> because it's not actually using x's value, only its type?
2021-05-17 20:16:05 +0200 <geekosaur> pretty sure you could pass an appropriately typed undefined there and it would still work (but be less useful)
2021-05-17 20:17:54 +0200isamiamsam(~d@zukertort.childrenofmay.org) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
2021-05-17 20:21:50 +0200 <Liskni_si> yeah, it's one of those "old people prefer let hacks over ScopedTypeVariables" situations :-)
2021-05-17 20:22:57 +0200 <Liskni_si> but the first time I wrote this, there was typeOf in place of typeRep, which is one proxy/Maybe away from the correct type, and it still typechecked yet didn't work, so it's questionable whether the let hack is really less error-prone than explicit typing
2021-05-17 20:23:48 +0200 <Liskni_si> anyway, using (undefined `asTypeOf` x) could make this more readable, possibly
2021-05-17 20:24:00 +0200 <geekosaur> the cleverer the language, the cleverer the ways it breaks :รพ
2021-05-17 20:24:28 +0200 <Liskni_si> (off to dinner, will reply later, sorry)
2021-05-17 20:27:39 +0200 <Solid> oh interesting
2021-05-17 20:29:14 +0200 <Solid> I'll play around with this a bit tomorrow; I have faith that ScopedTypeVariables will make this much more readable :P
2021-05-17 20:29:37 +0200 <geekosaur> I don't, it
2021-05-17 20:29:46 +0200 <geekosaur> 's kinda spooky action at a distance
2021-05-17 21:09:37 +0200 <Liskni_si> Solid: you may try TypeApplications too
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2021-05-17 21:10:37 +0200 <Solid> oh good point, that gets rid of some Proxy's every now and then, so maybe it'll be useful here too
2021-05-17 21:10:45 +0200 <Solid> btw, I think that this is really cool
2021-05-17 21:10:49 +0200 <Solid> so thanks :)
2021-05-17 21:11:18 +0200 <Liskni_si> I have no strong opinions about this, personally; instinctively I went with what was simplest/shortest, but readable trumps short most times
2021-05-17 21:12:31 +0200 <Liskni_si> anyway, I have (again) high hopes that when this lands, the EwmhDesktops stuff of #399 should follow easily and nicely
2021-05-17 21:12:51 +0200 <Liskni_si> now we just need to figure out how to handle all this dependency stuff
2021-05-17 21:13:23 +0200 <Solid> the real fun
2021-05-17 21:15:46 +0200cyr4x3(~cyr4x3@139.47.119.53)
2021-05-17 21:18:19 +0200 <Liskni_si> have you guys ever been to ZuriHac, btw?
2021-05-17 21:18:38 +0200 <Liskni_si> it's online this year so I registered, but I have no idea what it will be like
2021-05-17 21:19:48 +0200 <geekosaur> nope
2021-05-17 21:22:46 +0200 <Solid> I participated in the online event last year
2021-05-17 21:22:52 +0200 <Solid> It was... an online event
2021-05-17 21:23:42 +0200 <mc47> that's the first time I hear about it
2021-05-17 21:23:54 +0200 <mc47> it might be fun, but I'm kinda not motivated
2021-05-17 21:24:07 +0200 <Liskni_si> Solid: do tell more, if you can; I have absolutely no idea what to expect
2021-05-17 21:24:29 +0200 <Solid> I remember one workshop about generics being really good, but online conferences really fail to capture what I like about conferences
2021-05-17 21:24:53 +0200 <geekosaur> the hallway track?
2021-05-17 21:25:04 +0200 <Liskni_si> I was hoping it'd be more a hackathon than a conference
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2021-05-17 21:25:29 +0200 <Solid> it is if you ignore the talks :D but even for hackathon I need human contact :/
2021-05-17 21:25:39 +0200 <Solid> basically, there's a big discord server (yikes) with different rooms for different projects (people can ask for rooms)
2021-05-17 21:25:47 +0200 <Liskni_si> and that being online would solve my social anxiety issues
2021-05-17 21:25:50 +0200 <Solid> plus some off-topic stuff, plus rooms for talks where you can ask questions
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2021-05-17 21:26:17 +0200 <Liskni_si> I've been to conference once or twice, but never talked to anyone, as those people were already talking to one another :-/
2021-05-17 21:26:31 +0200cyr4x3(~cyr4x3@139.47.119.53)
2021-05-17 21:26:32 +0200geekosaurresembles that one
2021-05-17 21:26:52 +0200 <Liskni_si> (the good old trick of getting absolutely shitfaced at 10 am is frowned upon at international conferences, unfortunately)
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2021-05-17 21:28:24 +0200 <Liskni_si> mc47: not motivated in general or not motivated by zurihac in particular?
2021-05-17 21:29:29 +0200 <mc47> in general, if everything goes well, I should be chilling by the beach by then
2021-05-17 21:29:56 +0200 <mc47> or still working on my bachelor thesis because I procrastinated too much
2021-05-17 21:31:55 +0200mohab(~mohab@156.223.213.178)
2021-05-17 21:32:45 +0200 <Liskni_si> :-)
2021-05-17 21:33:39 +0200 <Solid> let's hope it's the beach :P
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2021-05-17 22:04:38 +0200 <mc47> fingers crossed
2021-05-17 22:04:54 +0200 <mc47> Liskni_si I think the PRs you added today are pretty cool! good job
2021-05-17 22:06:42 +0200 <Liskni_si> I'm glad you guys like it; I'm very excited about them myself, I think it'll improve a lot of stuff
2021-05-17 22:07:24 +0200 <mc47> I didn't have time to look at the implementation details, but the contribution solves a real problem
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