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2021-04-22 07:13:08 +0200 <Solid> this is yet another CoC that boils down to "don't be an asshole, please" and yet people still have a problem with it
2021-04-22 07:13:11 +0200 <Solid> sigh
2021-04-22 07:14:04 +0200 <Solid> maybe the internet hasn't radicalized me enough to find offense there, so that's a success, I guess :)
2021-04-22 07:15:46 +0200 <heck-to-the-gnom> It's 98% fine, it's merely the parts outlined in that clip
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2021-04-22 07:42:32 +0200 <Solid> probably just there to stop bullshit complaints because that's needed in $CURRENT_YEAR
2021-04-22 07:42:44 +0200 <Solid> maybe a sneaky way to filter out people who would inevitably cause problems later on :>
2021-04-22 08:00:40 +0200 <heck-to-the-gnom> It's possible, regardless, I don't care for their DE, so, even if their CoC is nothing bad/a way to appease the mob, I don't really care for them.
2021-04-22 08:01:21 +0200 <heck-to-the-gnom> mc47: It seems you've switched full time to matrix, yes?
2021-04-22 08:01:36 +0200wonko7(~wonko7@62.115.229.50)
2021-04-22 08:08:07 +0200 <Solid> he's still on IRC sometimes I think; probably just uses what's already open
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2021-04-22 10:06:33 +0200 <mc47[m]> heck-to-the-gnome that's because I'm mainly using my phone these days, I'm not spending as much time in front of the PC
2021-04-22 10:11:24 +0200 <mc47[m]> That and the fact that the internet is pretty terrible so IRC keeps disconnecting, which really annoys me
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2021-04-22 10:52:58 +0200 <MrElendig> rule 4861 of the internet: if anything is related to distrotube; ignore it, it is full of bs
2021-04-22 10:53:49 +0200 <MrElendig> fox news of the *nix world :p kinda
2021-04-22 10:54:42 +0200materiyolo(~materiyol@112.204.174.249)
2021-04-22 10:54:56 +0200 <Solid> :D
2021-04-22 10:59:34 +0200 <oogeek> :MrElendig I use Xmonad because of seeing his video, but then I start to read the source code and learn more
2021-04-22 10:59:55 +0200 <oogeek> No need to watch videos then
2021-04-22 11:00:27 +0200nova(~novasenco@gateway/tor-sasl/novasenco)
2021-04-22 11:01:25 +0200 <oogeek> MrElendig: Well, I must admit that it is a fact for about 90% of the time
2021-04-22 11:06:23 +0200 <Liskni_si> I maintain the opinion that everything is crap. DT is crap, CoCs are crap, vocal CoC proponents are crap people, vocal CoC opponents are crap people, RMS is crap and the anti-RMS witch hunt is crap too. So now I hope I've offended everyone equally, and thus offended noone.
2021-04-22 11:07:43 +0200 <MrElendig> the root problem is not the CoC's etc, but the fact that we still need them in 2021 tl;dr humanity sucks and should be wiped out :p
2021-04-22 11:08:29 +0200 <MrElendig> http://www.dieselsweeties.com/ics/301/
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2021-04-22 11:10:21 +0200 <oogeek> May I ask what is 'Coc'?
2021-04-22 11:10:26 +0200gzj(~gzj@unaffiliated/gzj)
2021-04-22 11:10:31 +0200 <oogeek> *CoC
2021-04-22 11:10:46 +0200 <mc47[m]> Code of conduct ist
2021-04-22 11:10:54 +0200 <oogeek> Oh thanks
2021-04-22 11:11:04 +0200 <mc47[m]> Ignore the "ist"... Stupid autocomplete
2021-04-22 11:11:45 +0200 <oogeek> I have opened a question about stack build here: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/issues/524
2021-04-22 11:11:51 +0200 <oogeek> I am not sure if it is stupid
2021-04-22 11:12:18 +0200 <Liskni_si> MrElendig: yeah that's true. I've seen a few incidents of CoC enforcement and all of them were mishandled and ended up angering everyone more than necessary. Humans are crap, no matter which side of the CoC they stand on. :-/
2021-04-22 11:12:50 +0200 <mc47[m]> oogeek it's not, we talked about solving those before
2021-04-22 11:13:04 +0200 <Liskni_si> (And I am crap, too, obviously. We all are.)
2021-04-22 11:13:38 +0200 <mc47[m]> We need to at least be consistent with the development guidelines and also solve the hlint warnings
2021-04-22 11:14:06 +0200 <mc47[m]> Hopefully that could be automated
2021-04-22 11:14:38 +0200 <mc47[m]> And enforced by some kind of CI, otherwise it's a futile effort
2021-04-22 11:15:22 +0200 <oogeek> Oh got it.
2021-04-22 11:22:00 +0200 <Liskni_si> xmonad core already builds with -Werror in CI so xmonad-contrib should follow but it's work that needs to be done.
2021-04-22 11:24:20 +0200 <Solid> apply-refact can apply hlint warnings automatically I think
2021-04-22 11:25:07 +0200 <Solid> not sure about ghc warnings as there's often not a unique way to get rid of them
2021-04-22 11:25:15 +0200 <mc47[m]> I also found a CI action that annotates problematic code spans in github (e.g. If we run hlint on PRs). Still haven't played with it enough
2021-04-22 11:27:14 +0200 <Liskni_si> I have an action like that of my own. ;-)
2021-04-22 11:27:52 +0200 <Liskni_si> Nothing complicated really, just sets up regexes for Github to understand the output.
2021-04-22 11:28:19 +0200 <Liskni_si> (Any action that does something more complicated than that will be crap in one way or another.)
2021-04-22 11:29:08 +0200 <mc47[m]> That's cool
2021-04-22 11:31:44 +0200 <Liskni_si> GHC's error messages are not machine-friendly though, so I never bothered to support those. :-/
2021-04-22 11:32:04 +0200 <Liskni_si> But it probably can be done, somehow.
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2021-04-22 11:42:39 +0200 <oogeek> Recently I bought a raspberry pi and sadly I found out that I could not run xmonad on it.
2021-04-22 11:43:10 +0200 <oogeek> It is too hard for me to cross-compile something like that.
2021-04-22 11:45:27 +0200 <Liskni_si> oogeek: did you try to compile it there?
2021-04-22 11:45:40 +0200 <MrElendig> shouldn't be that hard to crosscompile for arm
2021-04-22 11:45:50 +0200 <MrElendig> unless you have an ancient ghc/llvm
2021-04-22 11:46:28 +0200 <MrElendig> could always compile on the rpi instead if you have a day to spare :p
2021-04-22 11:46:32 +0200 <MrElendig> could also*
2021-04-22 11:46:34 +0200 <oogeek> I mean I have no experience with crosscompile
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2021-04-22 11:47:10 +0200 <Liskni_si> Back in 2011 I tried compiling something with GHC on the Nokia N900 which had 256M RAM + 768M swap, it was very slow but it did build eventually.
2021-04-22 11:47:26 +0200 <oogeek> Any resources for that? I have found some guide about cross-compile some other languages, but no haskell
2021-04-22 11:48:14 +0200 <MrElendig> https://mobile-haskell-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#
2021-04-22 11:48:58 +0200 <oogeek> MrElendig Oh thanks a lot for that.
2021-04-22 11:49:18 +0200 <oogeek> I really want to use it on my Arch Linux Arm aarch64 Raspberry Pi 4B
2021-04-22 11:49:23 +0200 <MrElendig> docker image should work with podman too
2021-04-22 11:49:49 +0200 <oogeek> I think I will dit into that later.
2021-04-22 11:50:03 +0200 <oogeek> Right now I use my Pi as VPN server.
2021-04-22 11:50:24 +0200 <oogeek> *dig
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2021-04-22 15:40:42 +0200 <heck-to-the-gnom> oogeek: Do you use wireguard? Or another VPN technology?
2021-04-22 15:45:27 +0200 <oogeek> heck-to-the-gnom I use openvpn
2021-04-22 15:45:56 +0200 <heck-to-the-gnom> Ah, have you tried wireguard? The blog posts on it seem really promising.
2021-04-22 15:47:52 +0200 <oogeek> I think I may try it in the future.
2021-04-22 15:50:32 +0200 <oogeek> Right now I am reading three guides about cross-compling haskell to Arch linux arm aarch64
2021-04-22 15:53:33 +0200 <heck-to-the-gnom> ah, yes, your hands are full
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