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2021-03-10 00:50:55 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> XMonad.Util.EZConfig and XMonad.Actions.CycleWS -> There's a list of keys at the end of that EZConfigs documentation, and `additionalKeysP` is what you should use, likely something like `"M-<XF86ScrollDown>", moveTo Next AnyWS`
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2021-03-10 00:56:59 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> You may need to use `additionalMouseBindings`
2021-03-10 00:57:02 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> jmuriel ^
2021-03-10 02:04:51 +0100 <jmuriel> thank you! i'll give that a try later
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2021-03-10 14:48:21 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Liskni_si: I'll be really busy for the next 2-3 days, including today, so here's my full config, the stuff in question is located in `xmonad.hs` @ ~L305
2021-03-10 14:48:28 +0100heck-to-the-gnomposted a file: (16KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/BfsFTYArVNOXAGjccwrglpPM/compressed.tar.xz >
2021-03-10 14:51:41 +0100 <Liskni_si> heck-to-the-gnom: well, s/isFloating/isFloat/ ;-)
2021-03-10 14:51:54 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> No, that's another thing I've defined
2021-03-10 14:52:31 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> oh, I see
2021-03-10 14:52:32 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> nvm
2021-03-10 14:52:50 +0100 <Liskni_si> on the other hand your original paste used to have isFloat and still printed errors
2021-03-10 14:53:00 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> yeah
2021-03-10 14:59:06 +0100 <Liskni_si> but I have absolutely no idea how you got those errors
2021-03-10 14:59:26 +0100 <Liskni_si> when I uncomment the unmodded floatConfReqHook and change isFloating to isFloat, it compiles just fine
2021-03-10 15:00:02 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Huh, do you have a modified version of one of the packages?
2021-03-10 15:00:19 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Well, yes, I've seen your config. But what do I need to copy over?
2021-03-10 15:01:04 +0100 <Liskni_si> I do have a modified version of everything, yeah
2021-03-10 15:01:23 +0100 <Liskni_si> but I don't remember changing anything relevant :-/
2021-03-10 15:02:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> oh and the isFloating thing doesn't even matter, the definition from FadeWindows is the same as isFloat from RefocusLast
2021-03-10 15:06:29 +0100 <Liskni_si> runQuery ((join :: _) <$> ((isFloat :: _) -?> (mh :: _)) :: _) w >>= \case
2021-03-10 15:06:40 +0100 <Liskni_si> can you compile with this and show the output somewhere pls?
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2021-03-10 15:09:38 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> https://p.bsd-unix.net/view/5c67a953
2021-03-10 15:14:53 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Yeah, I just looked through your modifications, I have no clue what's different. Do you build your xmonad manually, or let the program build itself?
2021-03-10 15:15:40 +0100 <Liskni_si> xmonad/xmonad-contrib is built by stack and xmonad-x86_64-linux is built by stack exec ghc
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2021-03-10 15:15:46 +0100 <Liskni_si> all that invoked from Makefile
2021-03-10 15:15:54 +0100 <Liskni_si> but that shouldn't really matter I think
2021-03-10 15:16:20 +0100 <Liskni_si> runQuery ((join :: _) <$> (((-?>) :: _) (isFloat :: _) (mh :: _) :: _) :: _) w >>= \case
2021-03-10 15:16:30 +0100 <Liskni_si> everything else checks up
2021-03-10 15:16:39 +0100 <Liskni_si> if it isn't -?>, I don't know what :-/
2021-03-10 15:17:30 +0100 <Liskni_si> maybe you're missing https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/b2e16d3bf1fc82b5ba71d8b4a2eb1ac328f57f5d ?
2021-03-10 15:17:45 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> was that last one supposed to compile correctly?
2021-03-10 15:17:55 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> another wall of errors...
2021-03-10 15:18:18 +0100 <Liskni_si> no, not correctly, it's supposed to print a lot of types
2021-03-10 15:18:42 +0100 <Liskni_si> but I think you're just missing that commit and that's it
2021-03-10 15:18:47 +0100 <geekosaur> everywheree there's a _ it should output a diagnostic showing the types
2021-03-10 15:19:05 +0100 <geekosaur> and yes, it does look like that commit is relevant given the errors you were getting before
2021-03-10 15:20:02 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Yeah, I checked one of the modified types with ghci, it's not present
2021-03-10 15:20:37 +0100 <Liskni_si> I didn't know this was a recent change, I haven't seen ManageHelpers before 2020 I guess :-/
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2021-03-10 15:32:16 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Alright, doing a full nix-store update, it's about time anyway, but lets hope that it has the xmonad-contrib updates needed
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2021-03-10 15:34:49 +0100 <geekosaur> I doubt it will unless they're tracking git xmonad, we haven't done a release in several years
2021-03-10 15:35:21 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> OK, well, we'll see, if not, I'll write my own derivation
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2021-03-10 17:18:16 +0100 <daphnis> has anyone tried xmonad with a superwide screen? i imagine it would be a bit annoying with few windows.
2021-03-10 17:18:58 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Yes, take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IxjLEmomg
2021-03-10 17:19:39 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> You can have multiple 'screens' within one layout
2021-03-10 17:20:18 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> you can also, like this person does it, have it dynamically adjust itself depending on resolution. e.g switching from laptop to monitor screen
2021-03-10 17:23:59 +0100 <Liskni_si> daphnis: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Layout/LayoutScreens.hs or https://chipsenkbeil.com/notes/linux-virtual-monitors-with-xrandr/
2021-03-10 17:24:49 +0100 <daphnis> thanks!
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2021-03-10 18:02:45 +0100 <geekosaur> you could also use a layout like ThreeColumn
2021-03-10 18:04:00 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> or sublayouts, with something like threecolumn
2021-03-10 18:05:10 +0100 <daphnis> hm, it's the solarized guy
2021-03-10 18:06:02 +0100 <geekosaur> LayoutCombinators lets you arbitrarily split the screen up horizontally or vertically
2021-03-10 18:06:16 +0100 <daphnis> i'm using three columns now, but i was thinking of a really wide screen (50")
2021-03-10 18:07:04 +0100 <daphnis> what is the thing called tabbed grouped layouts in the video?
2021-03-10 18:11:16 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-SubLayouts.html
2021-03-10 18:11:16 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> and
2021-03-10 18:11:16 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Layout-Tabbed.html
2021-03-10 18:13:05 +0100 <daphnis> looks promising
2021-03-10 18:18:43 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> It failed for me (weird artifacts), but that may be due to other modifiers I have
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2021-03-10 19:24:19 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> geekosaur: Why hasn't a release been done in several years? `xmonad-contrib` is bustling w/ activity rn, or at least, in comparison to the niche-ness of a tiling wm, it's pretty active.
2021-03-10 19:24:27 +0100 <geekosaur> it
2021-03-10 19:24:45 +0100 <geekosaur> 's bustling with activity because we'd like t make a release in time for the next debian release freeze
2021-03-10 19:26:01 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Ah, 2 days
2021-03-10 19:27:36 +0100 <geekosaur> sounds like we won't quite make it, or at least some changes won't
2021-03-10 19:29:08 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Sorry if I was a huge timesink to anyone working on that. I had no idea this was happening.
2021-03-10 19:30:47 +0100 <geekosaur> no, I think we just tossed a few too many logs on the fire. (there's a redesign of the statusbar stuff going on, for instance, which probably won't make it)
2021-03-10 19:31:30 +0100 <Liskni_si> are we really trying to make the release before the freeze?
2021-03-10 19:31:30 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> You could always just go back a few commits for the release, couldn't you?
2021-03-10 19:31:40 +0100 <Liskni_si> I've sort of given up on that tbh :-/
2021-03-10 19:32:26 +0100 <geekosaur> Liskni_si, that was what started the whole rush. things like the above and peti kinda slowed the whole thing down, though
2021-03-10 19:32:53 +0100 <Liskni_si> oh
2021-03-10 19:33:16 +0100 <Liskni_si> I just thought it'd be nice to make it by then, but it was never a hard deadline to me
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2021-03-10 19:33:50 +0100 <geekosaur> well, I don't know how hard it is. would be nice to have the version in debian not be ancient, bu then it is debian…
2021-03-10 19:34:06 +0100 <Liskni_si> although yeah, if the peti incident hadn't happened, we could've had the core released by now
2021-03-10 19:35:20 +0100 <Liskni_si> also, the peti incident led me to trying to contact debian maintainers and that went nowhere
2021-03-10 19:35:23 +0100growpotkin(~growpotki@130-45-30-154.dyn.grandenetworks.net)
2021-03-10 19:35:35 +0100 <Liskni_si> so caring about debian seems a bit futile at this point
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2021-03-10 19:36:33 +0100 <Liskni_si> I should maybe ping nomeata as he's listed among the debian xmonad maintainers and we've had some very nice interactions in the arbtt project
2021-03-10 19:36:36 +0100 <geekosaur> I think we could still release without the new statusbar stuff and a few other things that are pending, if we wanted to — but you're also right about no response from the debian maintainers
2021-03-10 19:37:17 +0100 <Liskni_si> yeah, if we really wanted to release, that could definitely be done
2021-03-10 19:37:50 +0100 <mc47> don't we have breaking changes that are fixed by 399?
2021-03-10 19:38:02 +0100 <Liskni_si> but I'd really like to deal with the ewmh window activation and statusbar stuff before that
2021-03-10 19:38:21 +0100 <Liskni_si> otherwise keeping compatibility will become way more painful than it already is
2021-03-10 19:38:45 +0100 <Liskni_si> mc47: yeah we do, but some of that could be reverted for the release perhaps
2021-03-10 19:39:46 +0100 <mc47> oh, right
2021-03-10 19:39:51 +0100 <Liskni_si> heck-to-the-gnom: anyway your being a timesink has had no measurable impact on these things I'd say :-)
2021-03-10 19:40:31 +0100 <Liskni_si> (not to encourage you to be more of a timesink, just to clarify the timescales we're talking about)
2021-03-10 19:42:11 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> :)
2021-03-10 19:43:10 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> Nah, I'll bother others with my time. I've gotten some nix things sorted out on my end, and the stuff we were discussing earlier should start working once I get a nix derivation made.
2021-03-10 19:44:43 +0100 <geekosaur> actually you were somewhat helpful I'd say, in testing some of the new stuff
2021-03-10 19:44:59 +0100 <geekosaur> and pointing out e.g. missed dependencies
2021-03-10 19:45:30 +0100 <geekosaur> (although I'd also argue that if you're running git xmonad you should say so up front to avoid problems like the MaybeManageHook one)
2021-03-10 19:46:21 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> I plan to get more involved with this project in the future. I'm still in the baby Haskell programmer stage, though.
2021-03-10 19:46:46 +0100 <geekosaur> many of us started out as baby haskell programmers
2021-03-10 19:46:54 +0100 <geekosaur> xmonad is still a gateway drug :)
2021-03-10 19:47:08 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> I'm fine hittin' that :)
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2021-03-10 19:49:42 +0100 <Liskni_si> good to hear you're planning to get more involved!
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2021-03-10 19:58:05 +0100 <Solid> heck-to-the-gnom: I'm still a baby haskeller and I managed to contribute so you can too!
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2021-03-10 20:00:54 +0100 <Solid> I'd like to see the status bar stuff in the new release already I have to say
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2021-03-10 20:01:32 +0100 <Solid> and I don't _only_ say this because my rewrite of the tutorial is already like 75% done and uses property logging so far :P
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2021-03-10 20:03:27 +0100 <heck-to-the-gnom> If I find myself with more freetime today & tomorrow, I'll see what I can assist w/
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2021-03-10 20:14:32 +0100 <Solid> \o/
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2021-03-10 21:03:05 +0100 <mc47> Solid can't wait to see that tutorial!
2021-03-10 21:05:00 +0100 <Solid> I should probably at least make it compatible with xmonad 0.15 and contrib 0.16
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