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2021-02-20 09:09:40 +0100sheepfleece(~sheep@46.53.253.85)
2021-02-20 09:12:23 +0100 <sheepfleece> Good day! I'm not sure what the problem is exactly, but sometimes when I move between two visible workspaces (on different screens) xmonad doesn't swap them and only changes focus to the other screen. I'm not sure when it started happenning, but what might be the problem, why does xmonad sometimes only change focus and not swap workspaces?
2021-02-20 09:16:43 +0100 <Solid> If you're moving between screens with M-{w,e,r} you should not see any workspace swapping at all
2021-02-20 09:17:56 +0100 <sheepfleece> I'm moving with M-{1..}
2021-02-20 09:18:59 +0100 <sheepfleece> No, to be precise I'm moving with M-{;,'}, but I mapped them with greedyView
2021-02-20 09:19:46 +0100 <Solid> Well that's certainly odd
2021-02-20 09:19:48 +0100 <sheepfleece> What's even more strange is that now it doesn't work with M-{;,'} workspaces but does work with M-{n,m,[,],\}
2021-02-20 09:21:27 +0100 <Solid> Are you able to reliably reproduce this?
2021-02-20 09:22:26 +0100 <sheepfleece> Right now, yes. But I'm not sure how exactly it didn't work before
2021-02-20 09:24:27 +0100 <sheepfleece> here is an exert from my config, https://paste.debian.net/1186190/
2021-02-20 09:28:45 +0100 <Solid> mh looks right to me
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2021-02-20 09:52:58 +0100 <sheepfleece> It fixed itself after complete reboot, I have no idea what is going on, ehhh
2021-02-20 09:53:25 +0100 <Solid> Oo
2021-02-20 09:53:35 +0100 <Solid> Sounds like some fun X11 fuckery :)
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2021-02-20 10:00:29 +0100 <sheepfleece> Okay, I can reproduce it, the config I showed was a bit of a lie, because some time ago I also had this line in it. https://paste.debian.net/1186193/
2021-02-20 10:00:42 +0100 <sheepfleece> So there were two ways to switching to those two workspaces
2021-02-20 10:01:18 +0100 <sheepfleece> I returned it again, and voila, it does this strange thing again
2021-02-20 10:10:41 +0100 <mc47> how does the entire config look like?
2021-02-20 10:12:17 +0100 <sheepfleece> https://paste.debian.net/1186194/
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2021-02-20 10:22:31 +0100 <mc47> no idea..
2021-02-20 10:23:30 +0100sheepfleece(~sheep@46.53.253.85)
2021-02-20 10:27:02 +0100 <mc47> on another note, I think we should add RRScreenChangeNotifyEvent to the docksEventHook
2021-02-20 10:27:50 +0100 <mc47> or something similar to react to changes in the screen config
2021-02-20 10:32:50 +0100 <sheepfleece> Also would it be possible to somehow change LayoutModifier to completely intercept messages? `handleMessOrMaybeModifyIt` is insufficient because it allows to either modify the message or state of LayoutModifier, not both at the same time. Also it doesn't allow to simply discard message (which can be done by changing message to something no one will handle, but it is a workaround)
2021-02-20 10:33:58 +0100 <sheepfleece> I already had two times when I wanted this new behaviour: first, when I wanted to modify how IncMasterN is handled by all Layouts (now instead I have a newtype wrapper for each layout I use to change the behaviour)
2021-02-20 10:35:40 +0100 <sheepfleece> and second, when I wanted to use the same LayoutModifier twice, I needed a way to say that this message should be handled by, say, first or second instance of the modifier. (I wanted to use Magnify layout for magnifying a little bit or by opening window in fullscreen)
2021-02-20 10:36:54 +0100 <sheepfleece> I know it can be done with Full layout, but there are other frustrations then (I want to toggle only between two layouts and open windows in fullscreen using other keybindings)
2021-02-20 10:39:26 +0100 <sheepfleece> I think it can be done with adding new method with signature `m a -> SomeMessage -> X (Maybe (These (m a) SomeMessage))`
2021-02-20 10:39:29 +0100 <sheepfleece> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/strict-0.4.0.1/docs/Data-Strict-These.html#t:These
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2021-02-20 11:45:35 +0100 <Liskni_si> mc47: why? calcGap runs in the layout, not in the event hook
2021-02-20 11:46:11 +0100 <Liskni_si> If the screen config changes, the layout is refreshed
2021-02-20 11:47:03 +0100 <Liskni_si> So there's nothing we need to do in the hook. If the bar program doesn't update its struts for the new screen config, we can't do anything meaningful.
2021-02-20 11:48:25 +0100 <Liskni_si> sheepfleece: for the second usecase there's https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Layout/MessageControl.hs
2021-02-20 11:52:09 +0100 <byorgey> Liskni_si, Solid: I just removed peti from the core xmonad team on github. I'm sorry it took me so long to get around to really looking into it, this has been a crazy few months for me.
2021-02-20 11:53:30 +0100 <byorgey> I have no idea about the merits of the various technical things being discussed, but it doesn't matter; after reading through everything I agree he was being pretty toxic.
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2021-02-20 12:36:41 +0100 <Liskni_si> byorgey: I am on a walk so I can't chat more, but: thanks
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2021-02-20 12:37:03 +0100 <Liskni_si> We'll need to deal with hackage access as well
2021-02-20 12:37:22 +0100 <Liskni_si> Right now none of the active people can upload anything
2021-02-20 12:39:22 +0100 <Liskni_si> See the X11 pr where I highlighted you and where dmwit replied
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2021-02-20 13:53:46 +0100 <byorgey> Liskni_si: right, I'll look into that too. Don't remember if I have Hackage upload access for things or not.
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2021-02-20 14:36:15 +0100 <mc47> Liskni_si I'm not sure if that will solve my problem, which is: when I unplug my main monitor, the windows are over the xmobars
2021-02-20 14:36:33 +0100 <mc47> I guess I need to find out exactly what's causing the problem
2021-02-20 14:39:14 +0100 <mc47> xmobar seems to be updating the struts correctly, reseting the config also doesn't fix it.. it only goes away when I restart xmonad
2021-02-20 14:51:51 +0100 <Liskni_si> I had this happen to me as well
2021-02-20 14:52:12 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solved by telling xmobar to act as a dock instead of just override redirect
2021-02-20 14:52:43 +0100 <Liskni_si> I don't remember the details though. Will check when I get home
2021-02-20 14:53:46 +0100 <mc47> that would be awesome! thanks
2021-02-20 14:55:13 +0100 <mc47> nevermind, I took a look at your config and it's there
2021-02-20 14:55:27 +0100 <mc47> overrideRedirect = False must be added to the xmobar config
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2021-02-20 14:58:57 +0100 <Liskni_si> Yeah but now that I think about it, it's a bit weird. I'd like to remind myself what the root cause was and whether it should perhaps be fixed.
2021-02-20 14:59:53 +0100 <Liskni_si> It's not good if it only works sometimes. If with override redirect it didn't work at all, that would be consistent. Now it's not.
2021-02-20 15:02:20 +0100 <Liskni_si> Also without override redirect you need to manually doLower
2021-02-20 15:02:43 +0100 <Liskni_si> This probably deserves a deeper look
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2021-02-20 19:15:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> byorgey: you do have hackage access to xmonad and xmonad-contrib, for X11 we'll need dminuoso or dmwit or one of the others that aren't here
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2021-02-20 23:26:22 +0100 <some_alex> hi
2021-02-20 23:27:45 +0100 <some_alex> how do I override default keybindings without having to copy-paste those defaults that I don't intend to change?
2021-02-20 23:41:42 +0100 <vrs> that's the default behavior
2021-02-20 23:41:56 +0100 <vrs> just specify some keybindings and the rest will be left alone
2021-02-20 23:45:10 +0100 <some_alex> vrs: I assign `keys` variable of defaultConfig to my own list of keys. So I don't get the default bindings if they are not in my list
2021-02-20 23:46:03 +0100 <vrs> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-contrib-0.16/docs/XMonad-Util-EZConfig.html
2021-02-20 23:47:02 +0100 <vrs> I forget that people sometimes don't use this