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2021-01-26 00:33:24 +0100 <Liskni_si> (sorry for the github pr noise, anyone who subscribes to that kind of thing)
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2021-01-26 03:17:12 +0100 <toniz4> hello, for some reason xmonad is displaying just a white border around zathura, when is focused or not. What can be causing this?
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2021-01-26 14:46:06 +0100 <Solid> woah that pr noise was awesome
2021-01-26 14:46:26 +0100 <Solid> can't say I didn't enjoy feeling like the project is alive :>
2021-01-26 14:46:35 +0100 <Liskni_si> :-D
2021-01-26 14:52:42 +0100 <geekosaur> fwiw, from yesterday (and note this is comparing the core, not contrib): https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/wLDCWcGadXhivaZnoYxODwpZ/Screen
2021-01-26 14:53:12 +0100 <geekosaur> we're not the most active, but legging it with hledger isn't too bad… and again, that's not counting contrib
2021-01-26 14:56:40 +0100 <geekosaur> original url, if you have a github api token and/or are willing to futz around with it: https://star-history.t9t.io/#jgm/pandoc&koalaman/shellcheck&PostgREST/postgrest&hasura/graphql-eng…
2021-01-26 14:57:19 +0100 <Liskni_si> it's definitely encouraging to see interest not plateauing yet
2021-01-26 14:57:53 +0100 <Liskni_si> I was afraid people would start leaving X11 for Wayland, but that doesn't seem to be happening yet
2021-01-26 14:58:15 +0100 <geekosaur> wayland is reportedly a hot mess, and there's at least one competing project now
2021-01-26 14:58:38 +0100 <geekosaur> which surprises me not at all
2021-01-26 15:00:58 +0100 <Liskni_si> yeah I'm not that surprised either, but I have a really bad track record of understanding and predicting other humans' behaviour, so... not drawing any conclusions from that :-))
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2021-01-26 18:01:54 +0100geekosaur(82650c7c@130.101.12.124)
2021-01-26 18:25:25 +0100 <byorgey> Liskni_si, Solid: how can I help? I have been away due to having a baby and the start of the semester
2021-01-26 18:28:01 +0100 <geekosaur> I figured the latter at least
2021-01-26 18:28:30 +0100 <Solid> Well, first of all, congratulations! :)
2021-01-26 18:31:02 +0100 <Solid> my (admittedly a bit biased) tl;dr is that there was a maintainer dispute about how to go about generating the man page and integrating that into the CI. One maintainer then thought it was a good idea to simply push his changes (essentially breaking a huge chunk of our CI) and reverting any attempts to restore the original state of things
2021-01-26 18:31:20 +0100 <Solid> I'm not in a position to link any pr's and issues right now, but I'm sure Liskni_si can do that
2021-01-26 18:32:08 +0100 <geekosaur> and I'm being whipsawed by illness and by having missed a week of meds that take me a month to stabilize on, it'll be another few weeks before I trust my damned brain
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2021-01-26 18:44:31 +0100 <geekosaur> but from my pov peti charged in and started bossing over attempts to rework the ci, and I'm inclined to remove his commit bit since he has basically only broken things and refused to talk with anyone about "his baby". but argh, #1 symptom of my meds flopping around is severe anxiety and I don't quite trust myself
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2021-01-26 18:56:13 +0100 <geekosaur> reference: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/260 and https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/261
2021-01-26 18:56:36 +0100geekosaurhas been trawling logs, this has been doing him no favors
2021-01-26 18:56:56 +0100 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/446#issuecomment-763513308
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2021-01-26 19:09:51 +0100 <Solid> okay so https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/267 and https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/268 also seems relevant (they contain much of the discussion)
2021-01-26 19:12:04 +0100 <Solid> byorgey: sorry that I can't give you a more coherent story, but at some point I just started marking mails as read
2021-01-26 19:13:03 +0100 <geekosaur> yeh, I had to evict the whole thing from my mailbox too or shut off everyone's access to the repo
2021-01-26 19:16:39 +0100geekosauradmits he is not at all suited to running open source projects, given the behaviors he's seen both here and elsewhere
2021-01-26 19:21:49 +0100 <byorgey> Thanks for the summary and links. I'll take a look.
2021-01-26 19:29:43 +0100 <Liskni_si> byorgey: congrats on the baby, sorry for accusing you of being awol so soon
2021-01-26 19:30:23 +0100 <Liskni_si> I don't have anything to add re the issue with Peter, I agree with whatever Solid and geekosaur just said
2021-01-26 19:32:31 +0100 <geekosaur> that and start of the new semester, which is itself pretty overwhelming for profs (having been university staff I know what the first few weeks of the semester are like from the inside)
2021-01-26 19:33:26 +0100 <Liskni_si> I should educate myself on semester timing in your part of the world I guess :-)
2021-01-26 19:34:55 +0100 <Liskni_si> in the parts of Europe I'm familiar with, January is the exam period of the autumn semester, meaning postgrads and TAs do a lot of exam gruntwork and profs finally get a break from lectures
2021-01-26 19:36:24 +0100 <geekosaur> that's early December in the U.S., exams are done by mid-Dec and then there's a break for the holidays, then things pick up again mid-January
2021-01-26 19:36:45 +0100 <Liskni_si> oh
2021-01-26 19:38:10 +0100 <geekosaur> fall semester typically starts late August although this varies a lot more
2021-01-26 19:38:47 +0100 <geekosaur> I used to virtually vanish in August because we were so busy prepping for fall
2021-01-26 19:41:00 +0100 <geekosaur> similarly end of the spring semester varies a fair bit depending on university/college
2021-01-26 19:42:56 +0100s00pcan(~chris@075-133-056-178.res.spectrum.com)
2021-01-26 19:49:45 +0100 <mc47> I'll soon be a victim of the different semester times between europe and the US... I'll have to study non-stop till next December (started this semester in November) so I can take care of everything in time
2021-01-26 19:50:09 +0100 <mc47> (that is, a bachelor thesis soon and an exchange semester right after that in the US... Hopefully it works out!)
2021-01-26 19:50:21 +0100 <mc47> And congrats byorgey !
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2021-01-26 21:56:34 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: there's one unanswered comment in #447, otherwise it's good to be merged
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