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2021-01-25 12:57:37 +0100 <Liskni_si> well, felko did have a point when they asked about a maintained fork
2021-01-25 12:58:18 +0100 <Liskni_si> the core is essentially dead, we can't even fix the damn CI that Peter broke for 3 fucking weeks
2021-01-25 12:58:38 +0100 <Liskni_si> and now that byorgey went awol as well…
2021-01-25 13:09:48 +0100 <Solid> I was almost gonna say "the core is _mostly_ correct", but then I remembered that we only fixed the xdg messyness a few weeks ago
2021-01-25 13:10:39 +0100 <Solid> and bigger changes are probably unlikely at this point (I really want emwh support to be in the core and not in contrib, but glhf actually doing that)
2021-01-25 13:12:35 +0100materiyolo(~materiyol@112.204.170.198)
2021-01-25 13:13:29 +0100 <Liskni_si> yeah, bigger changes are unlikely indeed
2021-01-25 13:13:46 +0100 <Liskni_si> I just wish we'd spent the 3 weeks doing something useful
2021-01-25 13:13:55 +0100 <mc47> the weird thing for me was that a maintainer who seemed to be away, comes to make an autocratic decisions... It's not really justified or fair for people who've been more actively involved in the recent phases of the project
2021-01-25 13:14:18 +0100 <mc47> But I guess the core is quite stable, and I don't think these problems would occur in the contrib
2021-01-25 13:14:49 +0100 <mc47> but then again; I've only been for two or three months around... so it's fair to say I know close to nothing
2021-01-25 13:15:21 +0100 <Liskni_si> I was just thinking in the bath how to best move forward, but all the options are bad
2021-01-25 13:15:41 +0100 <Solid> I mean the StackSet is very stable because it's formally verified; but that also means the StackSet is very unlikely to change in any way... because it's formally verified
2021-01-25 13:16:00 +0100 <Liskni_si> the best one is probably to move the current stack.yaml to stack-manpage.yaml and revert the old one back
2021-01-25 13:16:21 +0100 <Liskni_si> but this still means we'll have to maintain the set of extra-dep exceptions to nightly lts
2021-01-25 13:16:34 +0100 <Liskni_si> cause I doubt Peter is actually willing to do any work
2021-01-25 13:17:09 +0100 <Liskni_si> or I could move the genmanpage stuff to cabal, but the cabal github workflow is a just a steaming pile of dogshit that I'm not willing to touch with a ten foot pole
2021-01-25 13:17:14 +0100 <mc47> if he were active he would've intervened when travis was removed
2021-01-25 13:17:20 +0100 <Liskni_si> (and it's not even meant to be touched, it's generated)
2021-01-25 13:18:09 +0100 <Liskni_si> so it seems that no matter how much I'm willing to bend over backwards to satisfy his whims, it's just going to be fucked up
2021-01-25 13:18:38 +0100 <Liskni_si> and at that point it kind of makes sense to just fork it and waste time on "marketing" instead :-/
2021-01-25 13:18:52 +0100 <Liskni_si> or, well, just get drunk and forget it.
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2021-01-25 13:19:11 +0100 <Liskni_si> (thanks for letting me vent, btw)
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2021-01-25 13:19:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: yeah changes to StackSet are unlikely
2021-01-25 13:20:12 +0100 <Liskni_si> this tiling/floating layer thing might need a redesign, but I'd wait a few years with that
2021-01-25 13:20:13 +0100crmaurei(crmaurei@nat/qt/x-gtxmnsyobtvfsess)
2021-01-25 13:20:29 +0100 <mc47> we'll see, maybe a third party (maybe some old maintainer?) tags along and resolves the conflict
2021-01-25 13:20:31 +0100 <Liskni_si> until after this whole X11 vs Wayland vs maybe Mir/Arcan/whatever situation clears up
2021-01-25 13:21:42 +0100 <Solid> mc47: yes this is the only way right now that I can see
2021-01-25 13:21:47 +0100 <Liskni_si> but if someone was to fork xmonad, they could probably merge core and contrib and update the default config to include ewmh
2021-01-25 13:22:04 +0100 <Liskni_si> on the other hand the distros can do that as well
2021-01-25 13:22:53 +0100 <mc47> Makes sense, I doubt there's someone out there who uses xmonad without the contrib
2021-01-25 13:26:43 +0100 <Liskni_si> the good thing is that I'm no longer wondering if it's my fault or not and I can at least go and work on my -contrib PRs :-)
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2021-01-25 13:28:21 +0100 <mc47> glad to hear that ! Chatting and talking about things can help make them clearer, it's good to get different perspectives
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2021-01-25 15:06:45 +0100 <Solid> Liskni_si: re #447: the event being queued up and then re-executed afterwards is actually exactly what I observe in practice
2021-01-25 15:07:39 +0100 <Solid> it doesn't even really matter when I release the queued up pointer events
2021-01-25 15:07:48 +0100 <Solid> always seems to happen
2021-01-25 15:08:16 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: that's a bit weird
2021-01-25 15:09:03 +0100 <Liskni_si> I had to change the selectInput call and turn maskEvent into nextEvent, and then I don't see how they'd get queued
2021-01-25 15:09:10 +0100geekosaur(82650c7c@130.101.12.124)
2021-01-25 15:09:30 +0100 <Liskni_si> (nextEvent was just a testing hack though)
2021-01-25 15:10:00 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: can you push your changes somewhere?
2021-01-25 15:10:57 +0100 <Solid> oh I didn't actually modify these; simply adding allowEvents "just works"
2021-01-25 15:11:32 +0100 <Liskni_si> oh
2021-01-25 15:11:35 +0100 <Liskni_si> let me try that
2021-01-25 15:13:48 +0100 <Liskni_si> doesn't work here
2021-01-25 15:14:06 +0100 <Liskni_si> added allowEvents after the maskEvent, and xmonad still gets stuck
2021-01-25 15:14:37 +0100 <Liskni_si> I also added a print and, as expected, there's no event delivered, and thus allowEvents isn't being called
2021-01-25 15:14:41 +0100 <Liskni_si> did you add it elsewhere?
2021-01-25 15:14:42 +0100 <Solid> :o
2021-01-25 15:14:45 +0100 <Solid> let me try again
2021-01-25 15:14:51 +0100 <Solid> I also added it right after the maskEvent
2021-01-25 15:14:53 +0100 <Liskni_si> maybe add "print ev" there as well
2021-01-25 15:15:25 +0100 <Liskni_si> what I do is I run two terminal windows, in one of them I do journalctl -f, then invoke the prompt and click into the inactive window
2021-01-25 15:15:50 +0100 <Liskni_si> I can see events being printed as I'm typing, and then when I click, nothing else is printed
2021-01-25 15:16:10 +0100 <Liskni_si> with altered selectInput and nextEvent, there'd be a ButtonEvent
2021-01-25 15:30:52 +0100 <Solid> Liskni_si: you're right; I have no idea what I did before, but simply adding the allowEvents also froze xmonad this time around...
2021-01-25 15:31:27 +0100 <Solid> I am wondering though how you needed to change selectInput? It already seems to filter for the masks we want
2021-01-25 15:31:43 +0100 <Solid> leaving it alone and making maskEvents a nextEvents works for me (I promise)
2021-01-25 15:32:07 +0100 <Solid> s/nts/nt/
2021-01-25 15:32:25 +0100 <Liskni_si> that is a good question
2021-01-25 15:32:39 +0100 <Liskni_si> I probably did that because I was hoping to get some FocusOut events
2021-01-25 15:32:52 +0100 <Liskni_si> and then assumed these ButtonEvents would also need something
2021-01-25 15:33:16 +0100 <Liskni_si> nevermind then :-)
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2021-01-25 15:38:39 +0100 <Solid> Awesome, thanks :)
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2021-01-25 15:57:03 +0100 <Solid> I pushed a new version of that pr, in case you want to look at it
2021-01-25 15:57:43 +0100 <Solid> I'm not sure if the explanation is too verbose; but I feel like all of this X11 hackery needs to be written down *somewhere* other than github, and I think right there in the code may be the best place
2021-01-25 16:01:48 +0100 <Liskni_si> I didn't get any notification from github yet but I agree that stuff like this belongs close to the code in question
2021-01-25 16:24:57 +0100 <Solid> btw, is it okay to ping you in xmonad (say, for merging trivial fixes like #223) or do you want to stay away from that repo for a while?
2021-01-25 16:26:45 +0100 <Liskni_si> it's totally okay
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2021-01-25 16:58:07 +0100 <Liskni_si> so shall I merge #223 or do we want to rebase and CI first_
2021-01-25 17:05:32 +0100 <Solid> I think a rebase sounds sensible
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2021-01-25 17:46:58 +0100 <mc47> My weird issue with discord stealing focus magically disappeared after doing a system upgrade :D
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2021-01-25 22:25:12 +0100 <ADG1089__> what is the query for spotify, both className =? "Spotify" and className =? "sportify" are not working
2021-01-25 22:25:26 +0100 <ADG1089__> I think the hints do not get assigned immediately
2021-01-25 22:26:34 +0100 <Liskni_si> that extra "r" in "sportify" is just an IRC typo or did you mistype it in your xmonad.hs?
2021-01-25 22:26:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> (probably a silly question, sorry)
2021-01-25 22:27:20 +0100 <geekosaur> you have to use DynamicProperty with className =? "Spotify", last I checked (it's an example in the DynamicProperty docs)
2021-01-25 22:27:49 +0100 <geekosaur> or get a newer Spotify as someone reported it fixed in a recent update so it's not dynamic any more
2021-01-25 22:29:57 +0100 <ADG1089__> Liskni_si: irc typo
2021-01-25 22:30:29 +0100 <Liskni_si> (DynamicProperty looks like it should use MaybeManageHook instead as now it refreshes on all property changes everywhere even if the hook doesn't match)
2021-01-25 22:31:10 +0100 <geekosaur> possibly
2021-01-25 22:31:22 +0100 <geekosaur> it's a quick hack, really
2021-01-25 22:32:37 +0100 <ADG1089__> geekosaur: I am using aur/spotify 1:1.1.42.622-2 [+2106 ~32.73] . Maybe i'll find another one that i can show in xmobar too
2021-01-25 22:33:02 +0100 <geekosaur> I literally slappped it together in a few minutes to help someone get spotify working, which is why it's the usage example
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2021-01-25 22:40:55 +0100 <ADG1089__> geekosaur: thanks!
2021-01-25 22:40:57 +0100 <ADG1089__> it worked
2021-01-25 22:44:00 +0100 <ADG1089__> Noe i need to fix xmobar using static position on multimonitors
2021-01-25 22:49:11 +0100 <Liskni_si> geekosaur: oh :-)
2021-01-25 22:58:13 +0100 <ADG1089__> that is also fixed using dynamicbars and custom command line parameters calculated in xmonad config
2021-01-25 22:59:00 +0100geekosaur(82650c7c@130.101.12.124) (Quit: Connection closed)
2021-01-25 23:31:48 +0100Buliarous(~gypsydang@unaffiliated/buliarous)