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2021-01-11 00:06:04 +0100jamik(~james@d75-159-1-216.abhsia.telus.net)
2021-01-11 00:13:16 +0100 <jamik> Hey guys, I can't start xmobar due to a SocketError (see here: https://dpaste.com/GSBVUSTZ2). As the output says, I don't have a `/run/user/1000/bus` directory but I'm not sure what that means.
2021-01-11 00:14:54 +0100 <Liskni_si> toniz4: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Util/ClickableWorkspaces.hs
2021-01-11 00:15:12 +0100 <jamik> I do have a `/run/user/1000/dbus-1` directory, not sure if that is supposed to be the same.
2021-01-11 00:16:12 +0100 <Liskni_si> jamik: xmobar doesn't connect to dbug by default
2021-01-11 00:16:20 +0100 <Liskni_si> did you enable any monitor that does?
2021-01-11 00:17:09 +0100 <jamik> Apologies in advance for lack of knowedge in this area - what's a monitor in this case?
2021-01-11 00:17:27 +0100 <jamik> I didn't enable anything so I suppose not
2021-01-11 00:20:44 +0100 <Liskni_si> oh, it seems it does connect to dbus when compiled with dbus support
2021-01-11 00:20:54 +0100 <jamik> Yea I have compiled it with dbus support
2021-01-11 00:21:32 +0100 <Liskni_si> do you have a session dbus? (ps axf | grep 'dbus.*session')
2021-01-11 00:22:10 +0100 <jamik> Yeah that command shows me a session is running
2021-01-11 00:22:43 +0100 <Liskni_si> weird
2021-01-11 00:22:56 +0100 <Liskni_si> does echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS say unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus ?
2021-01-11 00:23:07 +0100 <jamik> I'm on gentoo so this USE flag info might be relevant to you if you also use it: https://dpaste.com/3LE89J9CL
2021-01-11 00:23:37 +0100notis(~notis@185.51.134.230) (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
2021-01-11 00:24:17 +0100 <jamik> Ah, that might be the problem, $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not set in my environment
2021-01-11 00:25:14 +0100 <jamik> So should I set it too /run/user/1000/dbus-1 seeing as I don't have /run/user/1000/bus?
2021-01-11 00:25:19 +0100notis(~notis@45.134.22.65)
2021-01-11 00:25:28 +0100 <Liskni_si> I don't think it's as simple as that
2021-01-11 00:26:25 +0100 <Liskni_si> /run/user/1000/dbus-1 is a directory (at least here), whereas /run/user/1000/bus is a unix socket
2021-01-11 00:26:42 +0100 <jamik> I see
2021-01-11 00:26:53 +0100 <Liskni_si> we need to figure out where, if at all, is your session dbus listening
2021-01-11 00:27:04 +0100 <Liskni_si> and why $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is not being set in your env
2021-01-11 00:27:11 +0100 <jamik> Okay let me see if I can find it
2021-01-11 00:27:25 +0100 <Liskni_si> lsof -p on the dbus-daemon pid might help
2021-01-11 00:27:57 +0100 <jamik> Okay, I'll run that
2021-01-11 00:29:37 +0100 <jamik> I have 3 dbus-daemon processes running according to pgrep
2021-01-11 00:31:20 +0100 <jamik> Here's the output of lsof -p on all of them: https://dpaste.com/BCZLVMLFD
2021-01-11 00:32:15 +0100 <Liskni_si> oh
2021-01-11 00:32:32 +0100 <Liskni_si> I wonder if any other apps are able to communicate with the bus?
2021-01-11 00:33:46 +0100 <jamik> I am a bit hand-wavy on dbus' responsibilities but I'm using things like pulseaudio and picom with dbus support and they seem to work
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2021-01-11 00:46:41 +0100 <Liskni_si> interesting
2021-01-11 00:46:49 +0100 <Liskni_si> I have no idea why that works
2021-01-11 00:47:51 +0100 <Liskni_si> I'm fairly sure that having DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS set correctly (to /tmp/dbus-something) will solve your issue, so that's what you should look into
2021-01-11 00:48:46 +0100 <Liskni_si> and if you're really sure that other apps are able to connect to the session bus correct but xmobar is not, then you might want to file a bug against https://github.com/rblaze/haskell-dbus/
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2021-01-11 00:50:51 +0100 <jamik> Liskni_si: Thanks for the help, at least I have some direction now. I'm uncertain whether my other apps are actually using the dbus functionality that I've compiled in but they work fine in all my usage so I won't file a bug unless I know that for sure
2021-01-11 00:51:31 +0100kelnoky(~shao@ip1f1222c4.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
2021-01-11 00:55:57 +0100 <Liskni_si> well I haven't seen a system without systemd and session dbus for years, so I have no idea where to look further
2021-01-11 00:56:34 +0100 <jamik> Yeah I'm using elogind with openrc so I can see how it might be weird to troubleshoot
2021-01-11 01:00:48 +0100 <toniz4> jamik: unfortunately this module isn't available in the version in the gentoo tree, there is a way to import this module from another path?
2021-01-11 01:01:25 +0100 <toniz4> jamik: i had this same error, executing xmonad like this solved it
2021-01-11 01:01:25 +0100 <toniz4> exec dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session xmonad
2021-01-11 01:02:38 +0100 <Liskni_si> I'd be careful with that, if there already is a session dbus that other apps can use, launching another one might cause other problems
2021-01-11 01:03:30 +0100 <Liskni_si> toniz4: you can place ClickableWorkspaces.hs in ~/.xmonad/lib, I think, or you can just copypaste the three functions into your xmonad.hs
2021-01-11 01:05:07 +0100 <toniz4> Liskni_si: I've been using it like this for a long time, it works fine
2021-01-11 01:05:51 +0100 <jamik> toniz4: sorry what module are you referring to? haskell-dbus?
2021-01-11 01:06:20 +0100 <jamik> Also to be clear my issue is with xmobar, I'm actually running xmonad right now with seemingly no issues
2021-01-11 01:09:03 +0100 <toniz4> jamik: yup, it's because you don't have DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRES in your env, dbus-launch does that
2021-01-11 01:11:24 +0100 <jamik> toniz4: Okay let me try launching it like that. Hopefully there I don't run into any potenitial issues that Liskni_si mentioned
2021-01-11 01:12:53 +0100 <Liskni_si> you might want to look at ps axf just to be sure
2021-01-11 01:13:18 +0100 <Liskni_si> if there are two dbus-daemons above/near your xmonad, that would mean you're doing something wrong
2021-01-11 01:13:37 +0100 <Liskni_si> it's still possible everything will work just fine though :-)
2021-01-11 01:14:42 +0100 <toniz4> yeah, if there is another dbus session launched it may cause problems
2021-01-11 01:16:32 +0100 <jamik> Well xmobar launches now and I now have 4 (rather than 3) dbus-daemons running. I will have to take a second to parse the ps axf output
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2021-01-11 04:39:48 +0100 <rudentoxic> in my keybinds, I want to spawn a terminal but with shift to make it floating. What's the simplest way to do this? How can I modify the spawn command to go straight to float, without using a managehook? for example, this doesn't work: ((modMask .|. shiftMask, xK_Return), spawn $ XMonad.terminal conf $ doRectFloat(W.RationalRect 0.1 0.1 0.8 0.7))
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2021-01-11 05:09:28 +0100 <vrs> @tell rudentoxic try XMonad.Hooks.ToggleHook's hookNext, like so (from my config): hookNext "centerfloat" True >> spawn' "editclipboard"
2021-01-11 05:09:28 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
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2021-01-11 07:00:40 +0100 <rudentoxic> vrs: where can I find your config?
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2021-01-11 15:50:10 +0100 <andytoshi> has anyone used KDE's kickoff menu as an alternative to dmenu?
2021-01-11 17:19:51 +0100 <mc47> Solid, liskin[m] I just submitted a PR for supporting multiple status bars, and defined a record-type to abstract over status bars
2021-01-11 17:20:03 +0100 <mc47> it would be great if you'd let me know what you think :D
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2021-01-11 17:45:47 +0100 <Solid> mh I wonder if all of these *Config functions are worth the additional complexity
2021-01-11 17:48:37 +0100 <mc47> what do you mean exactly? you would only look there if the other functions don't offer you the customizability you need
2021-01-11 17:49:18 +0100 <mc47> the number of functions would explode if we kept adding parameters there
2021-01-11 17:49:20 +0100geekosaur(42d52137@66.213.33.55)
2021-01-11 17:51:26 +0100 <mc47> I thought about making the statusBar* functions directly supply the StatusBarConfig, but that would result in the same problem where you can't look inside to only change a little thing
2021-01-11 17:51:45 +0100 <mc47> and you'd have to create the full config from scratch or copy it from the source
2021-01-11 17:52:36 +0100 <Solid> I'm not sure I follow you there
2021-01-11 17:53:09 +0100 <Solid> from my, admittedly cursory, look at the code it seems like e.g. statusBarPropToConfig is just a statusBarPropTo where you don't have to specify a toggle button
2021-01-11 17:53:58 +0100 <Solid> oh wait
2021-01-11 17:54:02 +0100 <Solid> I should learn to read type signatures
2021-01-11 17:54:28 +0100 <mc47> it's almost the same ;)
2021-01-11 17:55:23 +0100 <mc47> the first also expects a config so it's bound to, but the second returns the config that can be played around before being bound to the config
2021-01-11 17:55:30 +0100 <mc47> the XConfig that is
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2021-01-11 22:18:48 +0100 <xacktm> hello, using XMonad.Layout.Master, and the default behaviour for new windows is to take the master slot - is there a way to "pin" the master so that it never changes?
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2021-01-11 22:22:17 +0100 <geekosaur> XMonad.Hooks.InsertPosition, maybe
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2021-01-11 22:24:04 +0100 <rudentoxic> can I view an entire tag as a float I can move around and resize, with another tag behind it? Like, picture-in-picture.
2021-01-11 22:26:10 +0100 <geekosaur> no. our float handling is somewhat dire
2021-01-11 22:33:09 +0100 <xacktm> hmm, from the docs InsertPosition is globally applied in the manage hook, can I make it layout/workspace only?
2021-01-11 22:33:25 +0100 <xacktm> but I can try that for starters, thanks
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