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2021-01-05 05:16:35 +0100 <rudentoxic> How can I get a window to display behind other windows with transparency? I switched from xcompmgr to picom, and I'm using Full layout.
2021-01-05 05:18:02 +0100 <rudentoxic> I just noticed, when I float a window, that it does work. maybe I should use a different layout.
2021-01-05 05:28:29 +0100 <rudentoxic> Basically, what is it that keeps a window from being composited below another window?
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2021-01-05 07:16:07 +0100 <rudentoxic> this channel is more unhelpful than archlinux
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2021-01-05 08:20:38 +0100 <Solid> really living up to the name
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2021-01-05 11:19:04 +0100 <kmicu> Wait a minute so it works for floats but not when tiled? But there’s no window below when tiled. That’s the point of tiling. I do not follow.
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2021-01-05 13:38:08 +0100geekosaur(ac3a3bce@172.58.59.206)
2021-01-05 13:44:54 +0100 <geekosaur> the answer being that windows that are completely covered aren't even mapped. that goes back several years
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2021-01-05 16:54:46 +0100 <al3x27> What's this with some windows that start as floats, then mod-t puts them in the right place, is it a config error on my side?
2021-01-05 16:56:20 +0100 <Solid> al3x27: (almost) no windows start as floats by default, that must be something in your manageHook
2021-01-05 16:56:40 +0100kyali(~kyali@APN-123-251-234-gprs.simobil.net)
2021-01-05 16:57:10 +0100 <al3x27> Solid: hmm, weird, it's halflife and libreoffice, i have no hooks, but maybe they are covered by something else...
2021-01-05 16:57:53 +0100 <al3x27> mod-t is the best key ever, though
2021-01-05 17:00:37 +0100 <fizzie> `isFixedSize || isTransient` windows do start as floats by default. LibreOffice at least shouldn't fall into that category though.
2021-01-05 17:01:48 +0100 <Solid> yes these are kind of rare windows
2021-01-05 17:01:53 +0100 <al3x27> fizzie: ah, halflife does, though, so that's one...
2021-01-05 17:02:06 +0100 <Solid> there's also a default manageHook for MPlayer for some reason
2021-01-05 17:02:33 +0100ADG1089__(~aditya@223.236.177.109)
2021-01-05 17:02:52 +0100 <fizzie> There used to be one for Gimp as well.
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2021-01-05 17:03:19 +0100 <Solid> yes that was removed at some point, but somehow obscure music players survived :>
2021-01-05 17:03:35 +0100 <al3x27> fizzie: gimp has grown up, and is a decent app now
2021-01-05 17:03:40 +0100 <fizzie> It's more of a video player, not a music player.
2021-01-05 17:04:21 +0100 <fizzie> (And IME it was more of a "de-facto standard" rather than "obscure".)
2021-01-05 17:05:31 +0100 <al3x27> mplayer was king for quite many years, and is still the lightest, all 'round player (mpv is nicer, though)
2021-01-05 17:06:37 +0100 <Solid> well I stand corrected then; I'm clearly not old school enough for this
2021-01-05 17:09:20 +0100ADG1089_(~aditya@223.236.177.109)
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2021-01-05 17:13:13 +0100 <fizzie> I may be biased from having had a Matrox card for so long. ("mplayer -vo mga" / "mplayer -vo xmga" was really the only way for video playback.)
2021-01-05 17:13:16 +0100 <fizzie> In any case, "regular" LibreOffice windows do start tiled for me, FWIW.
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2021-01-05 17:31:37 +0100 <al3x27> fizzie: having had a matrox card puts you solidly in old-school... and office now behaves as it should
2021-01-05 17:31:52 +0100 <al3x27> just the wine apps left
2021-01-05 17:32:28 +0100ADG1089(~ADG1089@223.236.177.109)
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2021-01-05 17:35:14 +0100 <ADG1089__> how can i theme qt apps under xmonad?
2021-01-05 17:36:41 +0100entropie(~mit@ip5f5b594e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) (Quit: "")
2021-01-05 17:36:51 +0100 <al3x27> ADG1089__: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_look_for_Qt_and_GTK_applications
2021-01-05 17:38:15 +0100 <Solid> qt is sane here and they ship their own theming program
2021-01-05 17:38:20 +0100 <Solid> it's called qtconfig
2021-01-05 17:38:34 +0100entropie(~mit@ip5f5b594e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2021-01-05 17:40:44 +0100 <ADG1089__> qtconfig no longer exist in qt5
2021-01-05 17:41:12 +0100 <Solid> ...
2021-01-05 17:41:20 +0100 <Solid> s/is/was/
2021-01-05 17:41:49 +0100 <ADG1089__> I think some apps obey qt style like kdevelop but konversation does not want to
2021-01-05 17:42:59 +0100codedmart_codedmart
2021-01-05 17:43:20 +0100 <al3x27> ADG1089__: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Qt#Configuration_of_Qt5_apps_under_environments_other_than_KD…
2021-01-05 17:44:25 +0100 <ADG1089__> al3x27: thanks, installing qt5ct, hoping it works
2021-01-05 17:44:29 +0100 <al3x27> qt5ct is the new qtconfig
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2021-01-05 17:46:33 +0100 <ADG1089__> al3x27: amazing!!!! thank you very much
2021-01-05 17:46:50 +0100 <al3x27> archwiki to the rescue!
2021-01-05 17:47:16 +0100 <ADG1089__> yeah that's a f*king great wiki, I solved a lot of problems and learnt lot of stuff from it
2021-01-05 17:47:23 +0100 <ADG1089__> just been a month or so installed arch
2021-01-05 17:47:35 +0100 <ADG1089__> after 2 years of ubuntu and countless years of windows
2021-01-05 17:47:49 +0100 <al3x27> i've been using the wiki a lot longer then arch :-)
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2021-01-05 17:53:00 +0100 <ADG1089__> I should set these variables in /etc/profile? export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct
2021-01-05 17:53:24 +0100geekosaur(42d52137@66.213.33.55)
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2021-01-05 18:00:04 +0100 <al3x27> i use ~/.zshrc, but see: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xprofile
2021-01-05 18:01:10 +0100 <al3x27> anyting that gets read before your WM is fine, but local is better then /etc (in theory)
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2021-01-05 18:05:03 +0100kelnoky(~shao@ip1f1222c4.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de)
2021-01-05 18:07:14 +0100 <ADG1089__> Also I wanted to ask I had kde installed with xmonad so the login was from sddm, can i safely remove kde now, what would i use as my login gui then?
2021-01-05 18:09:39 +0100 <Solid> I'm pretty sure sddm is standalone
2021-01-05 18:10:26 +0100 <Solid> so you can just continue to use sddm (assuming uninstalling kde doesn't also uninstall that; in that case you may have to reinstall)
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2021-01-05 19:55:43 +0100 <Liskni_si> Speaking of mplayer, oh the joys of playing media on a 32M RAM Celeron laptop.
2021-01-05 19:56:50 +0100 <Liskni_si> X11 was too slow.
2021-01-05 19:57:33 +0100 <Liskni_si> Solid: I'll try to look at your xdg PR tomorrow. Traveling today.
2021-01-05 20:01:09 +0100 <Ristovski> a bit off topic, but any idea why changing window atoms seemingly has no effect? I am working on a status bar and I'm using glfw for context/windowing, I grab the X Window ID from it and then run some xcb_change_property, which are reflected in xprop/xwininfo, but they seem to have no effect
2021-01-05 20:01:46 +0100 <Ristovski> for example, setting it to _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK does not seem to have any effect, even after xcb_flush() :/
2021-01-05 20:03:29 +0100 <geekosaur> most atoms are looked at only at specific times, for example when the window is mapped
2021-01-05 20:03:34 +0100berberman_(~berberman@unaffiliated/berberman)
2021-01-05 20:03:34 +0100 <Solid> Liskni_si: awesome, thanks :)
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2021-01-05 20:05:03 +0100 <geekosaur> and you mean properties
2021-01-05 20:05:51 +0100 <Ristovski> geekosaur: the thing is, doing xcb_unmap_window/xcb_map_window doesn't seem to do anything either
2021-01-05 20:06:58 +0100 <geekosaur> what were you expecting to happen?
2021-01-05 20:09:25 +0100 <Ristovski> did you mean most atoms are only parsed /the first time/ the window is mapped?
2021-01-05 20:09:56 +0100kyali(~kyali@37.166.130.114) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
2021-01-05 20:10:07 +0100 <Ristovski> (I tried unmapping/mapping the window to reparse them, but if they are only looked at the first time the window is mapped, I can see why it wouldn't work)
2021-01-05 20:16:48 +0100 <geekosaur> should be any time it's mapped. but setting that property does not turn a window into a dock; it advertises that the window is a dock and should be handled as such (that is, look for _NET_WM_STRUT_PARTIAL and friends)
2021-01-05 20:17:57 +0100 <geekosaur> docks are self-managing and must know that they are docks
2021-01-05 20:24:05 +0100 <Ristovski> geekosaur: for reference, here is a minimally reproducible example: https://bpa.st/MVUQ
2021-01-05 20:25:22 +0100 <Ristovski> xprop and xwininfo: https://bpa.st/WITA
2021-01-05 20:26:33 +0100 <geekosaur> I'm still trying to figure out what you think should happen
2021-01-05 20:26:33 +0100 <Ristovski> I really can't figure what else is necessary, I toyed with the source code of something like yabar, and the dock property /alone/ is enough to produce the desired behavior
2021-01-05 20:27:34 +0100 <Ristovski> geekosaur: well I get a regular movable/resizable window instead of one that is static and ignored by xmonad (aka, like any other bar)
2021-01-05 20:28:44 +0100 <Ristovski> the properties (dock + struts) clearly get set, and if they get re-read each time the window gets mapped (I unmap and map it again), I don't see why it wouldn't be working
2021-01-05 20:36:58 +0100 <geekosaur> unmap and remap should be enough. although I'll note that it's on the dock app to draw itself in the right place, not on the window manager
2021-01-05 20:39:01 +0100 <Ristovski> geekosaur: if I take yabar, remove all properties, it also acts as a regular window, if I put its _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK property back - it works as expected
2021-01-05 20:39:08 +0100 <Ristovski> I am starting to think this might be some weird glfw issue :/
2021-01-05 20:41:31 +0100 <geekosaur> glfw may indeed be the issue, opengl is actually somewhat separate from X11 and has its own behaviors
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2021-01-05 20:49:33 +0100 <abhixec> is there a way to automatically change layout if number of windows is equal to some value?
2021-01-05 20:55:37 +0100 <geekosaur> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/blob/master/XMonad/Layout/IfMax.hs
2021-01-05 20:56:14 +0100 <geekosaur> not quite the same thing but maybe close enough?
2021-01-05 20:56:56 +0100 <abhixec> thanks geekosaur
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2021-01-05 23:16:44 +0100toniz4(~toniz4@unaffiliated/toniz4)
2021-01-05 23:17:40 +0100 <toniz4> hello, I'm tring to make xmobar work with xmonad, but xmobar just wont show up
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2021-01-05 23:21:16 +0100 <dariof4> have you set up your xmonad.hs so that it starts xmobar?
2021-01-05 23:22:19 +0100 <toniz4> dariof4: it would be in the main function right?
2021-01-05 23:22:25 +0100 <toniz4> like this: xmproc <- spawnPipe "xmobar ~/.config/xmobar/xmobar.hs"
2021-01-05 23:22:46 +0100 <dariof4> yeah
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2021-01-05 23:23:41 +0100 <toniz4> oops, killed the window by mistake
2021-01-05 23:23:59 +0100 <toniz4> and xmonad is allocating space for the bar
2021-01-05 23:25:36 +0100 <dariof4> have you tried just running it with "xmobar" instead of "xmobar ~/.config/xmobar/xmobar.hs"?
2021-01-05 23:26:50 +0100 <toniz4> same problem
2021-01-05 23:27:22 +0100 <dariof4> oh actually, that should point to "~/.config/xmobar/xmobarrc" instead of xmobar.hs i think
2021-01-05 23:28:14 +0100 <toniz4> dariof4: the config is the default one, i just renamed it
2021-01-05 23:28:28 +0100 <toniz4> im going to change the name of it
2021-01-05 23:28:37 +0100 <dariof4> and can you pastebin your xmonad.hs so i can take a look at it and maybe see if i find anything?
2021-01-05 23:28:43 +0100 <toniz4> sure
2021-01-05 23:28:59 +0100 <toniz4> https://0x0.st/-s9r.hs
2021-01-05 23:33:03 +0100 <dariof4> weird, your config is not working for me either
2021-01-05 23:36:18 +0100 <toniz4> dariof4: my xmobar config is default, just changed the font
2021-01-05 23:44:23 +0100 <dariof4> toniz4: i found the issue
2021-01-05 23:44:47 +0100 <toniz4> dariof4: nice, where it is?
2021-01-05 23:47:14 +0100 <dariof4> replace "logHook = myLogHook" with "logHook = dynamicLogWithPP xmobarPP
2021-01-05 23:47:16 +0100 <dariof4> { ppOutput = hPutStrLn xmproc
2021-01-05 23:47:18 +0100 <dariof4> }
2021-01-05 23:47:20 +0100 <dariof4> ,
2021-01-05 23:48:23 +0100 <dariof4> and also change "defaults = def { blah blah blah}" to "defaults xmproc = def {blah blah blah}"
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2021-01-05 23:49:05 +0100 <dariof4> and the last thing to change is in main replace "xmonad defaults" with "xmonad $ defaults xmproc"
2021-01-05 23:49:33 +0100 <dariof4> and it should work hopefully
2021-01-05 23:50:18 +0100 <toniz4> dariof4: can i change myLoghook instead of logHook directly?
2021-01-05 23:51:38 +0100 <dariof4> I'm not 100% sure tbh
2021-01-05 23:51:50 +0100 <toniz4> gonna try the way you said first
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2021-01-05 23:54:55 +0100 <toniz4> still isn't working ;(
2021-01-05 23:55:39 +0100 <dariof4> let me try to give you the pastebin to your config with the change i made, wait a seconed
2021-01-05 23:55:53 +0100 <toniz4> ok thanks!
2021-01-05 23:56:40 +0100 <toniz4> btw, i use this function in my shell to upload files to 0x0.st
2021-01-05 23:56:47 +0100 <toniz4> upload0x0() {
2021-01-05 23:56:48 +0100 <toniz4> for arg in "$@"; do
2021-01-05 23:56:48 +0100 <toniz4> curl -F"file=@${arg}" https://0x0.st
2021-01-05 23:56:48 +0100 <toniz4> done
2021-01-05 23:56:48 +0100 <toniz4> }