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2020-12-28 01:40:26 +0100 <fuzzypixelz> hello. how do I enable the gnome screensaver in xmonad?
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2020-12-28 08:38:03 +0100 <tavixvi> When I run 'mountpoint -q /home/tavi/mnt' from xmonad via createProcess, and wait for the exit status with waitForProcess, it always returns ExitSuccess, and I can't tell why.
2020-12-28 08:38:22 +0100 <tavixvi> As far as I can tell, xmonad doesn't run in a separate namespace.
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2020-12-28 09:10:09 +0100 <tavixvi> I'm beginning to think there's an error being thrown in my code somewhere that's causing it to just do nothing.
2020-12-28 09:10:21 +0100 <tavixvi> but the error isn't reported anywhere that I can see
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2020-12-28 11:00:00 +0100tavixvi(3fd08b2f@63.208.139.47)
2020-12-28 11:00:35 +0100 <tavixvi> So I figured out xmonad cleans up child processes so I can't get their exit codes. Is there a way around that?
2020-12-28 11:05:09 +0100 <dminuoso> What do you mean by "clean"
2020-12-28 11:06:39 +0100 <tavixvi> it catches sigchld signals and removes the zombie process before my code can retrieve the exit code.
2020-12-28 11:08:06 +0100 <dminuoso> What exact xmonad facility are you using to spawn your process?
2020-12-28 11:08:15 +0100 <dminuoso> oh
2020-12-28 11:08:53 +0100 <tavixvi> I'm just using haskell's spawnProcess and co.
2020-12-28 11:09:15 +0100 <tavixvi> or, createProcess, my bad
2020-12-28 11:13:17 +0100 <dminuoso> tavixvi: Mm, what if you createProcess through a shell?
2020-12-28 11:16:56 +0100 <tavixvi> I'm not sure I follow.
2020-12-28 11:22:20 +0100 <tavixvi> Well, there are issues for this, and some solutions. https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/113
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2020-12-28 11:45:54 +0100 <dminuoso> tavixvi: createProcess takes a CreateProcess, which could be built with proc or shell
2020-12-28 11:47:44 +0100 <dminuoso> Im not very knowledgeable in POSIX, so my thought is perhaps if you roundtrip through a shell you might get an exit code that way
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2020-12-28 13:00:51 +0100 <mc47> liskin[m] I'll definitely be lookingin your config for per-screen bars, because I couldn't wrap my hand around the DynamicBars module
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2020-12-28 13:05:09 +0100 <Solid> ah look, it's another module with minimal-to-no documentation
2020-12-28 13:06:52 +0100 <Solid> I suppose we should at least also provide property-based logging for that module as well
2020-12-28 13:10:07 +0100 <mc47> Exactly my thoughts
2020-12-28 13:10:36 +0100 <mc47> It's so coupled with Handles though, we'd probably need to write something new
2020-12-28 13:19:10 +0100 <Solid> yeah you're gright
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2020-12-28 13:38:18 +0100 <geekosaur> tavixvi, there are alternative spawn mechanisms that deal with this in XMonad.Util.Run
2020-12-28 13:38:47 +0100 <geekosaur> you can't use createProcess with xmonad's child handling
2020-12-28 13:38:54 +0100 <geekosaur> at least, not directly
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2020-12-28 14:31:41 +0100 <mc47> Solid btw, what do you think of an even more of makeStatusBar? Only doing `sendMessage ToggleStruts` is kinda too limiting, because it doesn't work with all layout modifiers
2020-12-28 14:33:54 +0100 <mc47> Personally, I need more things to happen, since I'm using spacing and gaps, which means I also need to toggle those to have a nice result
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2020-12-28 15:14:34 +0100 <Solid> ?tell mc47 at that point one may want to write their own custom solution
2020-12-28 15:14:34 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2020-12-28 15:15:24 +0100 <Solid> ?tell mc47 it would require us to add at least four more statusBar functions (statusBar, statusBar', statusBarProp, statusBarPropTo) if we don't want to break compatability with old configs
2020-12-28 15:15:24 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2020-12-28 15:15:51 +0100 <Solid> s/ata/ati/
2020-12-28 15:25:47 +0100mc47(~yecinem@x59cc879c.dyn.telefonica.de)
2020-12-28 15:27:46 +0100 <mc47> True, I'm already using my own solution for that
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2020-12-28 15:30:36 +0100 <Solid> sadly there's probably not "one size fits all" approach here
2020-12-28 15:31:09 +0100 <Solid> actually, re-reading your suggestion I think I misunderstood
2020-12-28 15:31:38 +0100 <Solid> and that sounds like a good idea
2020-12-28 15:32:15 +0100 <mc47> Solid concretely, instead of makeStatusBar, we'd have makeStatusBarWithStrutsAction and add another parameter to allow for any X () actions
2020-12-28 15:32:18 +0100 <Solid> exposing makeStatusBar (which is currently not exported) and simply adding an "what do you want your toggle struts button to do" argument
2020-12-28 15:32:28 +0100 <mc47> Exactly :-)
2020-12-28 15:32:56 +0100 <Solid> I'd put that directly into makeStatusBar; it's not exported so we don't have to worry about backwards compatibility
2020-12-28 15:33:37 +0100 <mc47> Ah right
2020-12-28 15:34:05 +0100 <mc47> Do you think we should also add other versions of statusBar and co. ?
2020-12-28 15:35:03 +0100 <Solid> I think that would clutter up things too much
2020-12-28 15:35:25 +0100 <Solid> Maybe add a little note in the respective haddocks along the lines of "if you want more flexibility, use makeStatusBar"
2020-12-28 15:35:36 +0100 <Liskni_si> at some point adding more parameters becomes confusing and it's better to just add a record type with some defaults and perhaps shortcut constructors
2020-12-28 15:36:03 +0100 <Liskni_si> I feel like makeStatusBar is already more complex than just unrolling it manually into xmonad.hs
2020-12-28 15:36:27 +0100 <mc47> Liskni_si that does sound better
2020-12-28 15:37:14 +0100 <Liskni_si> (some people might say that everything can and should just be a function, but without good support for named parameters with defaults, records are often better in terms of user/dev experience)
2020-12-28 15:39:01 +0100 <mc47> Using records does sound compelling, because it feels like the number of functions would "explode"
2020-12-28 15:39:29 +0100 <Solid> there are only so many fields of XConfig that makeStatusBar sets ;)
2020-12-28 15:41:27 +0100 <Solid> but perhaps you're right, this way users didn't need to guess which field of statusBar is which
2020-12-28 15:42:01 +0100 <Solid> and the "fill out this record please" mentality is already there in much of xmonad
2020-12-28 15:44:04 +0100 <mc47> I'll give it a go and see how it looks like
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2020-12-28 16:57:52 +0100 <Solid> ?tell geekosaur: Regarding X.H.FadeWindows ( https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/427 ): I changed the default opacity of a window to 1 instead of 0.93 and updated the documentation accordingly; since it's your module you obviously get to have the last word on this, but if you don't object I'd like to merge this at some point
2020-12-28 16:57:52 +0100 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
2020-12-28 16:58:04 +0100 <Solid> whoops, I probably messed up with the : there
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