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2020-12-10 01:30:39 +0100 <adder> i fixed the issue somehow... :)
2020-12-10 01:31:16 +0100 <adder> the last issue is, clickable workspaces on xmobar. they broken when i introduced another screen, because now screens are "0_1", etc
2020-12-10 01:31:20 +0100 <adder> this is my config: https://dpaste.com/2ATB5VNWD
2020-12-10 01:31:28 +0100 <adder> i don't know how to pass screen id to clickable'
2020-12-10 01:31:41 +0100 <adder> (or should i even do that in the first place)
2020-12-10 01:33:01 +0100 <adder> sorry, this https://dpaste.com/GZ5D9ZRU2
2020-12-10 01:33:59 +0100 <Liskni_si> adder: see the commit body here https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/commit/8e1268192587a662b96ab01eddd59cdf4e28b764
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2020-12-10 01:37:20 +0100 <adder> i'm unable to import the module
2020-12-10 01:39:22 +0100 <Liskni_si> you'll need xmonad-contrib from git
2020-12-10 01:44:18 +0100 <adder> i'm getting error when i try to install it https://dpaste.com/278LCZ6G9
2020-12-10 01:45:22 +0100 <Liskni_si> yeah, that's a known issue: https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/pull/219#issuecomment-742126193
2020-12-10 01:45:45 +0100 <Liskni_si> you'll need to revert the last merge in xmonad, sorry about that
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2020-12-10 01:49:55 +0100 <adder> which commit should i go back to? and which repository? xmonad or xmonad-contrib?
2020-12-10 01:50:59 +0100 <Liskni_si> xmonad, 5be975b4f23abe851ab59866f572d3301cb0119a
2020-12-10 01:57:23 +0100 <adder> ok, i built it, but it's not in the path i think
2020-12-10 02:26:42 +0100 <adder> i'm not sure how to use this clickablePP
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2020-12-10 08:52:11 +0100 <coldpress> adder: myLogHook = do clickablePP xmobarPP {ppOutput = hPutStrLn h} >>= dynamicLogWithPP
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2020-12-10 09:01:03 +0100 <deebo> clickable pee pee
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2020-12-10 10:47:09 +0100 <adder> hello, i'm not sure how would i pass ScreenId to myLogHook, can someone help? https://dpaste.com/2T2P7SLYA
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2020-12-10 14:47:44 +0100 <adder> hello, i need help setting clickable workspaces up
2020-12-10 14:47:53 +0100 <adder> the problem is that i use marshallPP and clickablePP
2020-12-10 14:54:58 +0100 <geekosaur> I expect that to have the same problem sorting does, with no simple fix
2020-12-10 14:56:07 +0100 <fizzie> Yeah, you'd need clickablePP's formatting wrapper to use the marshalled name for getting the workspace index, but the unmarshalled name for the title, which it just can't do. I think your best bet would be to take the implementations of marshallPP and clickablePP, and manually smash them together; they're not excessively complex.
2020-12-10 14:57:29 +0100 <fizzie> (Or give up on IndependentScreens... I've found moving workspaces between screens to be rather handy, after the adjustment period.)
2020-12-10 14:58:50 +0100 <geekosaur> sadly, IndependentScreens is a horrid hack. it's amazing it works as well as it does, but it doesn't play along with lots of other stuff
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2020-12-10 15:15:16 +0100 <Solid> sounds like the whole module needs an overhaul
2020-12-10 15:15:37 +0100 <Solid> sadly I like xmonad's default multi-monitor behaviour too much to work on this :/
2020-12-10 15:17:00 +0100 <geekosaur> overhaul wouldn't help. it's a clever idea that just won't play well with some other clever ideas :)
2020-12-10 15:17:37 +0100ml|(~ml|@unaffiliated/ml/x-3958674)
2020-12-10 15:19:28 +0100 <geekosaur> sadly I think sorting is also unfixable in the general case: sorting has no provision for virtual vs. physical IDs and there's no good way to give it one
2020-12-10 15:19:37 +0100 <dminuoso> fizzie: What do you mean by "moving workspaces between sreens"?
2020-12-10 15:22:22 +0100 <fizzie> dminuoso: The thing that IndependentScreens prevents. Having a workspace "x" shown first on one physical monitor, and then later on a different one.
2020-12-10 15:22:39 +0100 <dminuoso> Ah..
2020-12-10 15:22:47 +0100 <dminuoso> Are windows pinned to their workspaces?
2020-12-10 15:22:53 +0100 <dminuoso> Also, how do you run that with xmonad?
2020-12-10 15:23:23 +0100 <fizzie> No, each monitor gets its own set of independent (hence the name) workspaces.
2020-12-10 15:26:04 +0100 <fizzie> The way it actually works is, you give it a list of workspaces ("1", "2", "3"), and it generates a version that has a copy for each monitor ("0_1", "0_2", "0_3"; "1_1", "1_2", "1_3") for your config, plus provides utility functions from translating between (monitor, logical workspace) <=> physical workspace, and key bindings that change workspaces specifically on the current screen, and so on.
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2020-12-10 15:48:16 +0100 <dminuoso> well yeah, Im aware of IS works
2020-12-10 15:48:24 +0100 <dminuoso> oh wait
2020-12-10 15:48:29 +0100 <dminuoso> fizzie: is this functionality in xmonad-contrib?
2020-12-10 15:55:28 +0100amiri(~amiri@cpe-76-91-154-9.socal.res.rr.com)
2020-12-10 15:57:58 +0100 <fizzie> What, IndependentScreens? Yes, it's an xmonad-contrib module.
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2020-12-10 16:16:51 +0100 <dminuoso> fizzie: I think we're talking about different things. You suggested an alternative to IndependentScreens "I've found moving workspaces between screens to be rather handy")
2020-12-10 16:17:00 +0100 <dminuoso> And I was curious what you were talking about there
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2020-12-10 16:19:35 +0100 <fizzie> Oh. Sorry for the confusion. I just meant not using IndependentScreens but instead sticking to XMonad's default workspace model, which does allow that.
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2020-12-10 16:23:53 +0100 <dminuoso> Ah. You mean the default behavior where workspaces jump around the screens all the time?
2020-12-10 16:24:02 +0100 <dminuoso> Inflicting maximum pain on you by showing what StackSet is all about?
2020-12-10 16:24:24 +0100 <dminuoso> To me, it's dizzying to either use a single monitor, or use IndependentScreens with custom window functions..
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2020-12-10 16:25:32 +0100 <Solid> more like inflicting maximum joy ;)
2020-12-10 16:26:51 +0100 <dminuoso> I couldnt wrap my head aroud it after a month
2020-12-10 16:27:12 +0100 <dminuoso> Im just an average programmer, its why I write Haskell in the first place.
2020-12-10 16:28:48 +0100 <adder> i'm close :) the issue is this: clickable' s w = xmobarAction ("xmonadctl view\\\"" ++ show s ++ "_" ++ w ++ "\\\"") "1" w
2020-12-10 16:28:54 +0100 <adder> Couldn't find command 0_5"
2020-12-10 16:28:59 +0100 <adder> it somehow lacks the quote
2020-12-10 16:29:14 +0100 <adder> i'm not sure why, i tried all sorts of things
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2020-12-10 16:43:49 +0100 <tomsmeding> adder: perhaps better to discuss here, wasn't following this channel
2020-12-10 16:44:22 +0100 <adder> tomsmeding, ok
2020-12-10 16:44:26 +0100 <adder> well i'm not sure how to check what show s produces?
2020-12-10 16:44:55 +0100 <tomsmeding> can't you just print the value using putStrLn if you're in IO, or if you aren't, use `trace` from Debug.Trace?
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2020-12-10 16:51:50 +0100 <adder> i'm not that good with haskell unfortunately
2020-12-10 16:52:15 +0100 <adder> i removed xmonadctl view \\\ and left just shows s, it said this /bin/sh: 1: S: not found
2020-12-10 16:54:26 +0100 <adder> when i remove show s, it says this Couldn't find command view"2"
2020-12-10 16:54:45 +0100 <adder> which is the WorkspaceId
2020-12-10 16:55:16 +0100 <Solid> adder: `import Debug.Trace` and then `clickable' s w = trace (show s) $ ...`
2020-12-10 16:55:31 +0100 <Solid> prints the value of `show s` to stdout
2020-12-10 16:57:04 +0100 <adder> yeah it has spaces
2020-12-10 16:57:13 +0100 <adder> it's in the format S 0 or S 1
2020-12-10 16:59:00 +0100 <tomsmeding> one quick hack you can do is replace `show s` in your code with `show (fromEnum s)`
2020-12-10 16:59:34 +0100 <tomsmeding> but the xmonad experts here should be able to tell you if that's the way to go; I didn't find any other suitable ScreenId -> Int function in my quick search in the documentation
2020-12-10 17:00:11 +0100 <adder> that works! thanks a bunch.
2020-12-10 17:00:45 +0100 <tomsmeding> for your understanding: ScreenId is this thing: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/xmonad-0.15/docs/XMonad-Core.html#t:ScreenId
2020-12-10 17:00:59 +0100 <tomsmeding> it's a type with one constructor, namely `S`, that has an Int argument
2020-12-10 17:01:15 +0100 <tomsmeding> so if you `show` that, you get "S " followed by whatever is the show-representation of the Int
2020-12-10 17:01:36 +0100 <tomsmeding> you want just the Int, and one dirty way to do that is use the Enum instance, which provides fromEnum which does the trick
2020-12-10 17:02:03 +0100 <tomsmeding> alternatively you could do something like: let S number = s in ... use number here ...
2020-12-10 17:02:11 +0100 <adder> cool. thanks for the explanation. i'll have to devote some time to the basics because this is unbearable. i love xmonad but i don't know any haskell and it's hard to do what i need to do.
2020-12-10 17:02:34 +0100 <adder> i've been configuring dual monitor setup since yesterday morning
2020-12-10 17:02:54 +0100 <adder> thanks once again
2020-12-10 17:03:06 +0100 <Solid> Yes there doesn't seem to be a field for nicely unwrapping the `ScreenId`
2020-12-10 17:03:48 +0100 <Solid> adder: you can write a function that's like `unScreen :: ScreenId -> Int ; unScreen (S n) = n` to get rid of the hack ;)
2020-12-10 17:04:34 +0100 <adder> thank you :)
2020-12-10 17:04:49 +0100 <tomsmeding> though if screen_workspace is something one commonly needs, I'd expect xmonad to have a function to produce that representation
2020-12-10 17:04:57 +0100 <tomsmeding> but who am I, just an outsider :)
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2020-12-10 17:11:42 +0100 <Solid> tomsmeding: I don't think this is commonly needed (though I also think an `unTYPE` field on a newtype never hurts ;), it's just used here to hack around a different kind of hackery :>
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2020-12-10 17:27:04 +0100 <tomsmeding> :D
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2020-12-10 20:32:25 +0100nova(~novasenco@gateway/tor-sasl/novasenco)
2020-12-10 20:33:01 +0100 <nova> referring to xmobar docs, "--on", "--off", "--onc", and "--offc" .. all say "unrecognized option". Is this because I am using an older xmobar or something? It's from arch
2020-12-10 20:33:14 +0100 <nova> for Volume
2020-12-10 20:34:51 +0100 <Solid> nova: these seems to be monitor specific strings, i.e. they have to come aber a "--"
2020-12-10 20:35:28 +0100sagax(~sagax_nb@213.138.71.146)
2020-12-10 20:35:34 +0100 <Solid> ["--template", "...", "--", "--offc" "colour"]
2020-12-10 20:35:49 +0100 <nova> you've done me a solid. 'preciate it
2020-12-10 20:35:58 +0100 <Solid> :)
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2020-12-10 20:38:18 +0100 <Solid> the documentation could be a bit more specific there
2020-12-10 20:39:02 +0100 <Solid> good thing I'm currently in the process of updating the docs anyways :>
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2020-12-10 20:50:17 +0100 <nova> Solid, in other status bars, I have seen ability to send a signal to update part of the status bar. I wouldn't suppose that would be possible here?
2020-12-10 20:51:11 +0100 <nova> looks like SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 are hard-coded to change to the next / previous screen?
2020-12-10 20:52:51 +0100 <Solid> SIGUSR1 moves to the next screen and SIGUSR2 repositions xmobar on the current screen (according to the docs, not tested)
2020-12-10 20:53:24 +0100 <Solid> nova: I don't think forcing a refresh is possible atm; it's a feature I've wanted myself a few times but I, so far, haven't looked into implementing it
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2020-12-10 20:59:12 +0100 <nova> sorry I got d/c'd. May have missed messages
2020-12-10 20:59:23 +0100 <nova> “in other status bars, I have seen ability to send a signal to update part of the status bar. I wouldn't suppose that would be possible here?”
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2020-12-10 20:59:28 +0100 <nova> “looks like SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 are hard-coded to change to the next / previous screen?”
2020-12-10 21:00:12 +0100 <geekosaur> Solid 14:52:50SIGUSR1 moves to the next screen and SIGUSR2 repositions xmobar on the current screen (according to the docs, not tested)nova: I don't think forcing a refresh is possible atm; it's a feature I've wanted myself a few times but I, so far, haven't looked into implementing it
2020-12-10 21:00:34 +0100 <geekosaur> yug, that cut and pasted badly
2020-12-10 21:00:53 +0100 <nova> thx
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2020-12-10 21:01:58 +0100 <Solid> nova: there's now a bot that logs this channel! check the /topic for the URL
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2020-12-10 21:25:20 +0100 <Liskni_si> nova: why do you need to refresh something manually? because of the rate or because it's not refreshing even though it should?
2020-12-10 21:28:30 +0100 <nova> Liskni_si, tl;dr, I press Super+Ctrl+k to increase volume 5%, and xmobar lags (at most 1 second because of the timeout I put on it). However, other statusbars have ability to communicate via signals or rpc or something (never actually seen that but that might be nice) to say "hey, update a section".
2020-12-10 21:29:27 +0100 <nova> Also, quick question, do you all change volume with haskell in xmonad.hs? I use this vol script I made: https://gitlab.com/dylnmc/dotfiles/-/blob/master/scripts/vol eg, I use `vol -qi`, `vol -qd` and `vold -qt` to increase 5%, decrease 5%, and toggle mute.
2020-12-10 21:29:33 +0100 <Liskni_si> nova: oh I see, didn't realize the volume monitors are just period instead of event-based
2020-12-10 21:30:04 +0100Liskni_sichanges volume via xmonad invoking a bash script
2020-12-10 21:30:21 +0100 <nova> if I leave off the -q flag, then it uses dunst's notify-send to send the volume and mute status. it's pretty handy
2020-12-10 21:30:52 +0100 <nova> but it would be awesome if the statusbar would update immediately (and have no period) for volume.
2020-12-10 21:31:02 +0100 <nova> handling that, though, is, of course, rather tricky xD
2020-12-10 21:31:11 +0100 <Liskni_si> in my case, pasystray takes care of the notifications, and I just pactl the volume
2020-12-10 21:31:52 +0100 <nova> yes, I am using xmobar, and I'd like to stick with it for now. Also, I take exam now, so afk and thanks :)
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2020-12-10 21:59:53 +0100 <Solid> nova: there is an event-based volume plugin for xmobar
2020-12-10 22:00:08 +0100 <Solid> it's called `Alsa`
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2020-12-10 22:16:37 +0100 <nova> Solid, huh. well, I tried it. I get haskell errors. I just did , Run Alsa "default" "Master" [] 10 then used %alsa:default:Master%
2020-12-10 22:16:59 +0100 <nova> ah. It doesn't take an increment :)
2020-12-10 22:17:10 +0100 <nova> now, that is perfect. *hugs Solid*
2020-12-10 22:17:18 +0100 <nova> Solid++
2020-12-10 22:17:25 +0100 <nova> how do you get the bot to give KRRMA
2020-12-10 22:17:36 +0100 <nova> xmobot? Who it is?
2020-12-10 22:17:53 +0100 <nova> btw, xmobot is the best name for a bot ever. you're welcome
2020-12-10 22:17:59 +0100 <Solid> :D
2020-12-10 22:18:24 +0100 <geekosaur> lambdabot is quiet about it but tracks karma
2020-12-10 22:18:43 +0100 <nova> geekosaur++ geekosaur++ geekosaur++ geekosaur++ geekosaur++
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2020-12-10 22:19:27 +0100 <geekosaur> p sure it ignored all but the first of those :p
2020-12-10 22:20:08 +0100 <nova> it did. but you have 2 karma now :-)
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2020-12-10 22:33:53 +0100 <nova> Does anyone use xmobar with icons? You have to use .xbm files?
2020-12-10 22:36:00 +0100 <ybenel> nova: you mean xpm files ?
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2020-12-10 22:54:48 +0100Liskni_siuses xbm
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2020-12-10 23:14:02 +0100joznia(~jo@162-206-187-245.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net)
2020-12-10 23:15:07 +0100 <joznia> hey guys i need help with something
2020-12-10 23:15:23 +0100 <joznia> whenever i move a floating window a lot, xmonad freezes and doesn't respond to keybindings
2020-12-10 23:15:57 +0100 <joznia> xmonad.errors tells me nothing besides smartSpacing is deprecated
2020-12-10 23:17:46 +0100 <Liskni_si> joznia: that sounds like a pipe to dzen/xmobar getting full
2020-12-10 23:18:49 +0100 <joznia> hmm, how would i go about fixing that
2020-12-10 23:20:00 +0100 <Liskni_si> https://wiki.haskell.org/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions#XMonad_is_frozen.21
2020-12-10 23:20:15 +0100 <Liskni_si> https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad-contrib/pull/408
2020-12-10 23:22:12 +0100 <joznia> thanks
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