| 2026-05-16 00:07:48 +0000 | vados | (~vados@46-133-31-15.mobile.vf-ua.net) |
| 2026-05-16 01:56:46 +0000 | tremon | (~tremon@83.80.159.219) (Quit: getting boxed in) |
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| 2026-05-16 02:17:00 +0000 | td_ | (~td@i53870924.versanet.de) |
| 2026-05-16 02:33:02 +0000 | <geekosaur> | so for the past week I've been stuck on wayland (upgraded to 25.10, ubuntu isn't offering me 26.04, amdgpu is seriously messed up and in particular x11 wedges the system after 5 minutes) |
| 2026-05-16 02:33:15 +0000 | <geekosaur> | a few notes on wibnis for a wayland xmonad: |
| 2026-05-16 02:33:56 +0000 | <geekosaur> | - something like swaymsg -t get_tree, but with full stackset info (get_tree doesn't tell you what output or window has focus among other things) |
| 2026-05-16 02:34:46 +0000 | <geekosaur> | - wayland has no true screensaver protocol. there's some things that work on compositor activity but something based on input activity would be nice. the compositor has to provide that out of band since there's no protocol support |
| 2026-05-16 02:36:10 +0000 | <geekosaur> | - in general something like swaymsg or the command poc that's been in contrib for years would be a really nice thing to have, especially for bars that don't have to be built into the compositor |
| 2026-05-16 02:36:41 +0000 | <geekosaur> | - wayland also has zero ewmh support. which I presume means bars must be built in or use an oob protocol |
| 2026-05-16 02:37:41 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (all of which makes me wonder if wayland should even be a target, tbh, but inventing our own sane alternative / extended protocol probably goes nowhere) |
| 2026-05-16 02:45:34 +0000 | <geekosaur> | the above said, what worked out of the box and has never worked for me in x11? apps are sanely sized including properly scaled fonts on both my laptop's internal panel and the external monitors |
| 2026-05-16 02:45:45 +0000 | <geekosaur> | (and probably won't ever work right on x11) |
| 2026-05-16 03:02:44 +0000 | <geekosaur> | also fwiw that activity thing seems to be window creation/deletion, not e.g. drawing. although input is also part of it. but a displayed notification unblanks. |
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| 2026-05-16 13:34:41 +0000 | rekahsoft | (~rekahsoft@70.51.99.119) rekahsoft |
| 2026-05-16 16:45:02 +0000 | <geekosaur> | - sway also can autolaunch an xwayland for X11 apps; maybe that can be done in a contrib instead of baking it in? |
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