2021/06/08

2021-06-08 09:25:39 +0200ircbrowse_tom(~ircbrowse@2a01:4f8:1c1c:9319::1)
2021-06-08 09:25:39 +0200Server+nt
2021-06-08 09:30:37 +0200 <tomsmeding> https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lckmonad
2021-06-08 09:32:45 +0200 <gk> Is this a logger? Nice, thanks.
2021-06-08 09:33:22 +0200 <Solid> tomsmeding: awesome, thank you!
2021-06-08 09:33:37 +0200 <gk> Solid: Mind adding this to the channel description?
2021-06-08 09:33:37 +0200 <tomsmeding> gk: requested by Solid :)
2021-06-08 09:33:50 +0200 <gk> Thank you very much!
2021-06-08 09:34:03 +0200ChanServ+o Solid
2021-06-08 09:34:05 +0200 KMonad: The Onion of Keyboard Management Tools | Channel Log: https://ircbrowse.tomsmeding.com/browse/lckmonad
2021-06-08 09:34:08 +0200ChanServ-o Solid
2021-06-08 09:43:43 +0200 <gk> darn I hate how restrictive github's valid html in markdown is..
2021-06-08 09:44:27 +0200 <gk> I can't even set an <img> element to 100% height, or 1em height (so it can be relative to the text size)
2021-06-08 10:05:44 +0200 <gk> Working with fonts makes everything difficult lol
2021-06-08 10:06:00 +0200 <gk> I might hard-code a typeface
2021-06-08 10:06:19 +0200 <gk> As apparently doing this without off alignment is impossible: http://0x0.st/-_GJ.png
2021-06-08 10:06:51 +0200 <gk> But then embedding a typeface forces me to choose a text colour, as github doesn't support inheriting.
2021-06-08 10:14:05 +0200 <gk> I guess, Solid: How does this look to you? http://0x0.st/-_G3.png
2021-06-08 10:14:21 +0200 <gk> I turned Roboto Condensed into svg elements
2021-06-08 10:14:33 +0200 <gk> Having to work with native fonts is super painful
2021-06-08 10:14:38 +0200 <gk> Especially with github's restrictions.
2021-06-08 10:38:38 +0200 <gk> I tested the other colour for the font, eh I prefer the darkblueish one. http://0x0.st/-_GG.png
2021-06-08 10:41:18 +0200 <Solid> gk: yeah I'd say the first one looks better
2021-06-08 10:41:42 +0200 <Solid> it does looks really nice, thanks for the effort :)
2021-06-08 10:41:43 +0200 <gk> First one being the one with pinkish text, or bluish text?
2021-06-08 10:42:07 +0200 <Solid> the bluish text
2021-06-08 10:42:15 +0200 <Solid> oh right, first picture, but second option in the second picture :D
2021-06-08 10:42:20 +0200 <gk> Haha yeah
2021-06-08 10:42:25 +0200 <gk> It could have been both ways
2021-06-08 11:19:59 +0200Vermoot(~Vermoot@lfbn-ncy-1-227-78.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr)
2021-06-08 11:20:12 +0200 <Vermoot> Alright, this is more like it
2021-06-08 11:20:18 +0200 <Vermoot> Helloka
2021-06-08 11:20:23 +0200 <Vermoot> Hello!
2021-06-08 11:20:26 +0200 <gk> :wave:
2021-06-08 11:20:37 +0200 <Vermoot> :gkwave:
2021-06-08 11:20:55 +0200 <gk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/843758983420444749.png?v=1
2021-06-08 11:20:57 +0200 <gk> yes
2021-06-08 11:21:05 +0200 <gk> best emote tbh
2021-06-08 11:22:33 +0200 <gk> Vermoot: tldr of kline.sh: freenode was sold, the 7 boomers still on irc got annoyed, made & moved to libera.chat
2021-06-08 11:23:08 +0200 <Vermoot> I have no idea how it might work, but is a bridge between here and the Discord still in the works?
2021-06-08 11:23:23 +0200 <gk> It's in the "considering, need to find a good one" phase, afaik
2021-06-08 11:23:29 +0200 <Vermoot> ok
2021-06-08 11:23:58 +0200 <Vermoot> I'm still unsure if it should be linked with #general or on its own channel
2021-06-08 11:24:06 +0200 <gk> Eh, I'd do general tbh
2021-06-08 11:24:13 +0200 <Vermoot> Leaning towards its own channel :D
2021-06-08 11:24:57 +0200 <Vermoot> My thinking is that if there's support happening here, we wouldn't want it to be polluted by general discussion from Discord, and vice vera
2021-06-08 11:25:02 +0200 <Vermoot> versa*
2021-06-08 11:25:10 +0200 <gk> For those who haven't seen it, this is the channel layout on discord: http://0x0.st/-_DP.png
2021-06-08 11:25:52 +0200 <Vermoot> Not that there's a huge amount of discussion in there at this point, but ya know, it might
2021-06-08 11:57:15 +0200 <Solid> gk: 28743 boomers already registered with nickserv here :>
2021-06-08 11:57:23 +0200 <gk> close enough
2021-06-08 11:58:05 +0200 <gk> I can count both with one hand :)
2021-06-08 11:58:56 +0200 <Solid> that reminds me to write to the libera admins for the namespace
2021-06-08 11:59:07 +0200 <Solid> we could link discord channels 1-1 to IRC but I'm not sure that's worth it
2021-06-08 11:59:45 +0200 <gk> Yeah I'm not so sure about having that many irc channels
2021-06-08 12:06:02 +0200 <Ikosit> gk: At the same time i dislike the thought of the irc channels just being an „extension“ of the discord
2021-06-08 12:06:49 +0200 <gk> Could you perhaps elaborate on that?
2021-06-08 12:07:25 +0200 <gk> What setup are you imagining?
2021-06-08 12:07:56 +0200 <gk> #general <-> irc? everything <-> irc? #irc <-> irc?
2021-06-08 12:14:00 +0200 <gk> (first being the discord channel)
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2021-06-08 13:05:42 +0200gk(~gk@118.209.5.158)
2021-06-08 13:07:15 +0200 <gk> Ikosit ^^
2021-06-08 13:07:42 +0200 <Ikosit> Hm?
2021-06-08 13:08:23 +0200 <gk> I was a bit confused at your statement about IRC being an extension of the discord, if possible, can you elaborate on it?
2021-06-08 13:09:41 +0200 <Ikosit> Well, i don't like the discord being a superset of the irc…
2021-06-08 13:09:52 +0200 <Ikosit> Although the other solutions aren't that great either
2021-06-08 13:10:16 +0200 <gk> I mean, I wasn't sure how you were imagining it.
2021-06-08 13:10:51 +0200 <gk> Since personally I'd do #general (discord) <-> irc
2021-06-08 13:20:42 +0200 <Solid> perhaps they want every channel being bridged?
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2021-06-08 13:33:55 +0200 <gk> Maybe, solid.
2021-06-08 13:33:57 +0200 <Ikosit> Solid: You mean me?
2021-06-08 13:34:04 +0200 <Ikosit> *do
2021-06-08 13:34:07 +0200 <Solid> Ikosit: yes
2021-06-08 13:34:38 +0200 <Ikosit> <Ikosit "Although the other solutions are"> ↑
2021-06-08 13:35:24 +0200 <gk> Yes? The message above that is just as unclear - I don't get what you mean by superset.
2021-06-08 13:36:30 +0200 <Ikosit> Do you know what a superset is?
2021-06-08 13:37:06 +0200 <gk> Nope. I tried searching but it mostly seems to be workout stuff.
2021-06-08 13:38:57 +0200 <Ikosit> gk: I mean superset in the context of set theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset)
2021-06-08 13:39:28 +0200 <gk> Ah
2021-06-08 13:40:02 +0200 <gk> So - if we did a bridge, what would your proposed method be? It wouldn't be impossible to change the discord channel layout, either.
2021-06-08 13:43:09 +0200 <Ikosit> What i might like the most, is to have an additional irc channel called sth like #kmonad-discord and on discord a channel called #irc, or sth
2021-06-08 13:43:19 +0200 <Ikosit> But im not sure, tbh
2021-06-08 13:43:31 +0200 <Ikosit> if this would be the best
2021-06-08 13:44:01 +0200 <gk> I'm not sure about that tbh - people would pop in and say hi in the normal channel, which to me would be less than ideal
2021-06-08 13:44:50 +0200 <gk> Like to me, with both kmonad and kmonad-discord (on irc) existing, I'd just hop into kmonad - and same with discord.
2021-06-08 13:45:41 +0200 <gk> but that - to you - could be ideal
2021-06-08 13:46:34 +0200 <gk> But to me, most conversations tend to happen in the general channel, which would therefore make the most sense to bridge.
2021-06-08 13:46:45 +0200 <gk> (assuming we only do one, of course)
2021-06-08 13:49:03 +0200 <gk> Hm, actually - How do sub-channels work in IRC? Do people often join them, and how "obvious" is their existance? (say you only know of #kmonad, and you know there's another subchannel, but you don't know the name)
2021-06-08 13:49:50 +0200 <Ikosit> gk there is no concept of sub-channels
2021-06-08 13:50:08 +0200 <Ikosit> (at least, not in most clients)
2021-06-08 13:50:08 +0200 <gk> I meant stuff like #kmonad-discord
2021-06-08 13:50:27 +0200 <Ikosit> gk: That'd be just another channel
2021-06-08 13:50:34 +0200 <gk> Technically it's another chan, but I'd see it as a subset of #kmonad
2021-06-08 13:50:43 +0200 <Ikosit> Yes
2021-06-08 13:51:16 +0200 <Ikosit> You could create a irc client, that respects e.g. „-“-seperated namespaces
2021-06-08 13:51:24 +0200 <Ikosit> *an
2021-06-08 13:51:47 +0200 <Solid> gk: you usually just link to them in the topic
2021-06-08 13:51:55 +0200 <gk> Makes sense.
2021-06-08 14:05:15 +0200 <gk> Also, Solid: should I add the IRC & Discord links to the readme in my PR?
2021-06-08 14:05:49 +0200 <Solid> gk: sure, why not (just make that a separate commit please)
2021-06-08 14:05:57 +0200 <gk> Haha of course.
2021-06-08 14:06:07 +0200 <Solid> might also add the matrix channel while you're at it
2021-06-08 14:06:16 +0200 <gk> The libera chat one?
2021-06-08 14:06:25 +0200 <Ikosit> yes
2021-06-08 14:10:03 +0200 <gk> > Additionally, if you need any help or just want to say hi, you can join our [Discord server](https://discord.gg/3tFfWmnahN) or jump into our [IRC channel](https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/libera.chat/kmonad) (bridged with #kmonad:libera.chat on matrix). We're friendly folk!
2021-06-08 14:10:05 +0200 <lambdabot> <hint>:1:13: error: parse error on input ‘,’
2021-06-08 14:10:07 +0200 <gk> Based off vermoot's comment
2021-06-08 14:10:23 +0200 <gk> I'm not sure about the We're friendly folk bit to be honest.
2021-06-08 14:11:05 +0200 <Solid> :)
2021-06-08 14:11:31 +0200 <Solid> Libera now hosts their own webchat, might want to use that instead: https://web.libera.chat/#kmonad
2021-06-08 14:11:40 +0200 <gk> Oh? okay.
2021-06-08 14:12:38 +0200 <gk> What are irc channel formats usually stated as?
2021-06-08 14:12:46 +0200 <gk> "#channel:server.tld"?
2021-06-08 14:12:49 +0200 <gk> Like matrix
2021-06-08 14:13:02 +0200 <gk> or "#channel on server.tld"?
2021-06-08 14:14:40 +0200 <Solid> a third option :D I've usually seen it as "#channel@network"
2021-06-08 14:14:49 +0200 <Solid> so like #kmonad@irc.libera.chat
2021-06-08 14:23:19 +0200 <gk> Additionally, if you need any help or just want to say hi, you can join our [Discord server](https://discord.gg/3tFfWmnahN) or jump into our [IRC channel](https://web.libera.chat/#kmonad) (#kmonad@irc.libera.chat), which is also bridged with matrix (#kmonad:libera.chat). We're friendly folk!
2021-06-08 14:23:46 +0200 <Ikosit> Solid: there is also the format: irc://libera.chat/#kmonad
2021-06-08 14:25:28 +0200mohawk(~2e52f21e@ircip2.mibbit.com)
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2021-06-08 14:25:45 +0200 <Ikosit> * irc://irc.libera.chat/#kmonad
2021-06-08 14:26:56 +0200 <gk> How did the last version sound?
2021-06-08 14:27:17 +0200 <gk> I'd like to have the irc in both plain text and a quick link (kiwiirc)
2021-06-08 14:32:05 +0200 <Solid> gk: sounds good to me
2021-06-08 14:34:39 +0200 <gk> Okay, and final thing before I commit, what do you think about the final 3 words? For me "We're friendly folk!" feels too.. in-your-face?
2021-06-08 14:35:29 +0200 <gk> ver​moot wrote it, of course. I just based my edits off his original comment.
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2021-06-08 14:40:58 +0200 <Solid> eh I don't mind either way tbh
2021-06-08 14:41:11 +0200 <Solid> if you feel uncomfortable with that or think it's weird leave it out
2021-06-08 14:41:16 +0200 <gk> Oke
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