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2024-04-20 05:20:08 +0200Inst(~Inst@user/Inst)
2024-04-20 05:21:00 +0200 <Inst> Curious, does it matter at all that both ReaderT and the ((->) r) monad have (const id <$ a) <*> b as an instance for then?
2024-04-20 05:21:23 +0200 <Inst> I might have that code wrong, but in degrades into _ <*> b = b
2024-04-20 05:21:29 +0200 <Inst> I'm wondering if Hasklel optimizes this properly
2024-04-20 05:22:17 +0200 <Inst> also, does the reader / function monad have any implications for laziness? And is there much loss if you resort to using ( (->) r ) in lieu of closures?
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2024-04-20 10:47:09 +0200 <damax> Hello everyone, I'm having some problems making HLS work properly on VS Code with the Haskell extension. It had been working quite well for the longest time, up until yesterday, when I came back after not being able to code with it for a couple months. I upgraded to the latest versions of everything (I now use ghcup 0.1.22.0, stack 2.15.5, hls 2.7.0.0, cabal 3.10.3.0 and ghc 9.8.2), and now for some reason
2024-04-20 10:47:16 +0200 <damax> it seems like hls does not load hlint specifically (and potentially other plugins, I didn't check), and that's bothering me. I'm on arch linux with kernel 6.8.7-zen1-1-zen, visual-studio-code-bin 1.88.1-1, Haskell extension v2.4.3 (with Haskell Syntax Highlighting by Justus Adam v3.6.0. This is the output of my workspace and the user settings for the haskell extension https://paste.tomsmeding.com/tBPn3Zg7
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2024-04-20 11:29:25 +0200 <Guest94> hello everyone . when i write haskell in vscode . the HLS tell me
2024-04-20 11:29:25 +0200 <Guest94> Could not load module ‘Diagrams.Prelude’
2024-04-20 11:29:26 +0200 <Guest94> It is a member of the hidden package ‘diagrams-lib-1.4.6.1’.
2024-04-20 11:29:26 +0200 <Guest94> You can run ‘:set -package diagrams-lib’ to expose it.
2024-04-20 11:29:27 +0200 <Guest94> at import Diagrams.Prelude
2024-04-20 11:29:27 +0200 <Guest94> please how can i solve this
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2024-04-20 11:36:11 +0200 <SteelBlueSilk> Guest94, define it as a dependency using stack or just cabal. i think ive noticed if you go the only-cabal route you want an hie.yaml file.
2024-04-20 11:37:30 +0200 <SteelBlueSilk> Guest94, it's hidden because while it is installed in your maybe site-wide cabal setup (or whatever), it is not available for your project
2024-04-20 11:38:45 +0200 <Guest94> oh . i exactly use it in only-cabal route
2024-04-20 11:38:59 +0200 <Guest94> i well learn how to use .yaml file
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2024-04-20 11:39:12 +0200 <Guest94> will
2024-04-20 11:39:17 +0200 <Guest94> thank you!
2024-04-20 11:46:49 +0200driib(~driib@vmi931078.contaboserver.net)
2024-04-20 11:52:15 +0200 <divya> How do y'all feel about the tooling in Haskell, compared to that of Rust? I recently have been playing around Rust and its error management and tooling in general seems pretty good.
2024-04-20 11:55:32 +0200 <Rembane> Rust has generally better tooling than Haskell in my experience.
2024-04-20 11:56:28 +0200 <divya> But, how can we improve? I think it should be improved.
2024-04-20 11:58:45 +0200Raito_Bezarius(~Raito@wireguard/tunneler/raito-bezarius)
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2024-04-20 12:02:20 +0200 <Rembane> I would love for Brittany to still be maintained and for the HLS to work a bit better with my editor than it does, but I don't do Haskell-programming on a level where I really use that kind of tooling at the moment, so I'm not target audience.
2024-04-20 12:02:54 +0200 <divya> What editor do you use? On Emacs I've never had any issues.
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2024-04-20 12:05:03 +0200 <Rembane> Neovim, but I think it's more about finding the right version of HLS
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2024-04-20 12:05:28 +0200 <damax> On vs code, weirdly enough I now have that problem I wrote above about hls not loading hlint suggestions
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2024-04-20 12:14:50 +0200 <dminuoso> 09:56:29 divya │ But, how can we improve? I think it should be improved.
2024-04-20 12:15:11 +0200 <dminuoso> Improve adoption. The only reason rust has better tooling is because it has far more users and industry usage, so it receives more attention by community and industry alike.
2024-04-20 12:15:35 +0200 <dminuoso> Of course this is a chicken-and-egg type of problem.
2024-04-20 12:16:07 +0200 <dminuoso> Better adoption drives development of better tools. Better tools drive adoption.
2024-04-20 12:16:23 +0200causal(~eric@50.35.88.207) (Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1)
2024-04-20 12:16:33 +0200 <dminuoso> The only question is whether we have a positive or negative rate of development.
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