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| 2025-12-02 23:35:29 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-02 23:29:47 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:40c9:191b:e4f:324a) |
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| 2025-12-02 23:26:39 +0100 | gentauro | (~gentauro@user/gentauro) gentauro |
| 2025-12-02 23:25:18 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-85-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
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| 2025-12-02 23:24:59 +0100 | tromp | (~textual@2001:1c00:3487:1b00:40c9:191b:e4f:324a) (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) |
| 2025-12-02 23:24:26 +0100 | gentauro | (~gentauro@user/gentauro) (Quit: leaving) |
| 2025-12-02 23:24:15 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 23:20:45 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> Like any strategy that fails in one place is good fit for another. |
| 2025-12-02 23:19:41 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-02 23:18:39 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> I don't know much about those details but.. In general no technical decision should be considered in vacuum |
| 2025-12-02 23:13:10 +0100 | trickard_ | (~trickard@cpe-85-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 2025-12-02 23:12:57 +0100 | trickard | (~trickard@cpe-85-98-47-163.wireline.com.au) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 2025-12-02 23:12:50 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 23:11:41 +0100 | <geekosaur> | Wayland devs made some decisions about global event handling that are similar to IBM's Workplace Shell. And have thereby run into several of the same failure modes. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. |
| 2025-12-02 23:09:29 +0100 | <geekosaur> | (and that it's Apple) |
| 2025-12-02 23:08:44 +0100 | <geekosaur> | *Core |
| 2025-12-02 23:08:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | Apple's ore Graphics is pretty good, at least from the client end and ignoring that it's closed source |
| 2025-12-02 23:07:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-02 23:07:34 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> Is there a modern window system you're happier with than with wayland? |
| 2025-12-02 23:00:12 +0100 | <geekosaur> | and X11 has a lot of horrid hacks to make it semifunctional on modern video |
| 2025-12-02 22:59:30 +0100 | dhil | (~dhil@5.151.29.141) (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 22:58:37 +0100 | <geekosaur> | not that I would at all recommend sticking with how X11 works; it was suitable for 1980s engineering workstations but not at all so for modern video hardware |
| 2025-12-02 22:57:49 +0100 | <geekosaur> | I, uh, disagree with a number of decisions they made |
| 2025-12-02 22:57:26 +0100 | takuan | (~takuan@d8D86B9E9.access.telenet.be) (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 2025-12-02 22:57:16 +0100 | <geekosaur> | nope |
| 2025-12-02 22:56:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 22:56:44 +0100 | absentia | (~henricus@user/institor) (K-Lined) |
| 2025-12-02 22:55:54 +0100 | lambda_gibbon | (~lambda_gi@2603:7080:ee00:37d8:11e:138e:d914:c117) |
| 2025-12-02 22:52:08 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-02 22:49:23 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> cool cool |
| 2025-12-02 22:47:10 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <loonycyborg> Did you do anything wayland in addition to X11? |
| 2025-12-02 22:40:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 22:36:44 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-02 22:30:12 +0100 | ouilemur | (~jgmerritt@user/ouilemur) ouilemur |
| 2025-12-02 22:26:51 +0100 | <geekosaur> | if there are any older U Manchester folks in channel: I wrote UnAxcess. many of the internet refs have it wrong, claiming I was at various universities that in fact got it from the old Usenet net.sources newsgroup |
| 2025-12-02 22:25:59 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 22:24:48 +0100 | <geekosaur> | JNOS/Linux (major porting effort from Windows, but a fairly limited audience: amateur radio TCP/IP) |
| 2025-12-02 22:24:07 +0100 | <geekosaur> | that said, I was doing more than C the whole time, ranging from COBOL(!) and various "4GL" database languages to Perl and a bit of Tcl/Tk (I think I'm still credited for contributions to Exmh) |
| 2025-12-02 22:22:27 +0100 | <geekosaur> | database apps in the early years, then mostly porting and maintenance, then OpenAFS kernel module work |
| 2025-12-02 22:21:13 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> I wonder what you were making in the C years |
| 2025-12-02 22:21:03 +0100 | <haskellbridge> | <sm> geekosaur nice! |
| 2025-12-02 22:18:43 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-02 22:17:33 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 22:12:55 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) merijn |
| 2025-12-02 22:12:28 +0100 | Anarchos | (~Anarchos@91-161-254-16.subs.proxad.net) Anarchos |
| 2025-12-02 22:01:44 +0100 | merijn | (~merijn@host-vr.cgnat-g.v4.dfn.nl) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 2025-12-02 22:00:35 +0100 | polykernel_ | polykernel |