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2021-05-05 00:00:53 +0200ddellac__(~ddellacos@86.106.143.100)
2021-05-05 00:01:38 +0200 <dmj`> haskell ffi is fantastic
2021-05-05 00:01:47 +0200 <dmj`> haskell probably wouldn't be usable w/o it
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2021-05-05 00:06:50 +0200 <Arahael> Truely underrated.
2021-05-05 00:07:14 +0200 <Arahael> Rust ffi isn't too bad either, but I imagine that Haskell is insanely good.
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2021-05-05 00:08:23 +0200 <dmj`> Arahael: it is insanely good yea
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2021-05-05 00:15:50 +0200 <safinaskar> Arahael: wow, thanks for mention of inline-rust, i didn't think this is possible. give me a link to inline-cc (you mean c or c++?)
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2021-05-05 00:17:16 +0200 <geekosaur> @hackage inline-c
2021-05-05 00:17:16 +0200 <lambdabot> https://hackage.haskell.org/package/inline-c
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2021-05-05 00:17:27 +0200 <Arahael> safinaskar: inline-c works with c++ and even objc, apparently.
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2021-05-05 00:25:35 +0200 <dmj`> nothing beats hsc2hs
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2021-05-05 01:13:31 +0200 <tempate> Hello. This is my very first time working with stack. Can anyone point me to some sort of guide to follow? I've been reading the reference manual and everything appears to be working, but it's generating a lot more stuff than I'd like. Ideally it'd just generate the minimum number of files for it to work.
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2021-05-05 01:22:40 +0200 <jollygood2> tempate, this may be helpful: https://docs.haskellstack.org/en/stable/GUIDE/#hello-world-example
2021-05-05 01:23:42 +0200ddellaco_(~ddellacos@ool-44c73afa.dyn.optonline.net)
2021-05-05 01:24:26 +0200 <duairc> Is there any way at all to make a type family instance like `type instance Foo a = (forall r. (X -> r) -> r) -> a`? GHC complains about an illegal polymorphic type. I don't even mind factoring the `r` into the type family itself, so like, `type instance Foo a r = ((X -> r) -> r) -> a`, but `forall r. Foo a r` doesn't have the same meaning
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2021-05-05 01:28:43 +0200 <tempate> jollygood2: Thanks, but that's the one I was following
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2021-05-05 01:30:28 +0200 <shachaf> duairc: Hmm, I don't know why that's not allowed.
2021-05-05 01:30:32 +0200 <shachaf> I guess you can wrap it in a newtype.
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2021-05-05 01:42:16 +0200 <tempate> This is my very first haskell project: https://github.com/Tempate/8puzzle . It'd be great if I could get some comments on it, as I'm sure I'm doing many things in a non-haskellian way.
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2021-05-05 01:43:06 +0200 <tempate> I was also wondering if there was a more standarized method of having tests instead of just having a src/Tests file and calling it from Main
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2021-05-05 02:00:24 +0200 <moet> ooh, i like "haskellian" way better than "haskeller"
2021-05-05 02:00:44 +0200 <moet> tempate: normally you define tests as their own stanza in the cabalfile, and then they'd have their own entrypoint (main file)
2021-05-05 02:03:06 +0200 <moet> tempate: https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cabal-package.html#test-suites
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2021-05-05 02:03:42 +0200 <tempate> moet: oh, thanks a lot. I'll give that a look
2021-05-05 02:04:03 +0200proofofkeags(~proofofke@205.209.28.54) (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)
2021-05-05 02:04:16 +0200 <moet> tempate: it seems like Board, Move, and Search are meant to be exposed as library modules, since your main only runs tests.. to do that you'd use a library stanza in the cabalfile (probably also documented on the same page linked above)
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2021-05-05 02:05:04 +0200 <moet> tempate: a quick glance through Board, Move, and Search ... they look pretty haskellian to me! :)
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2021-05-05 02:06:10 +0200 <tempate> got it!
2021-05-05 02:06:35 +0200 <tempate> I'm going to call it a day now, but tomorrow I'll give it another try and report back
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2021-05-05 02:50:44 +0200 <monochrom> https://github.com/treblacy/ccal :)
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2021-05-05 06:01:49 +0200ddellacosta(ddellacost@gateway/vpn/mullvad/ddellacosta)
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2021-05-05 09:22:41 +0200 <wrunt> I'm finding these utilities useful: https://paste.tomsmeding.com/7Yee1X6v
2021-05-05 09:23:14 +0200 <wrunt> Do they already exist somewhere? Am I somehow abusing runWithReplace? It seems odd...
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2021-05-05 10:27:45 +0200 <dminuoso> wrunt: What is runWithReplace or Adjustable? The latter does not seem to be the one from `keys`
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2021-05-05 10:35:10 +0200 <wrunt> dminuoso: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/reflex-0.8.1.0/docs/Reflex-Adjustable-Class.html
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2021-05-05 10:36:12 +0200 <Cale> wrunt: Those are definitely strange...
2021-05-05 10:36:50 +0200malumore(~malumore@151.62.122.2)
2021-05-05 10:37:07 +0200 <Cale> You could at least use (pure never) in sequenceEvent
2021-05-05 10:38:09 +0200 <wrunt> Oh... I was using (pure ()), but decided it didn't really matter what was there as it didn't seem to be used.
2021-05-05 10:38:29 +0200 <Cale> oh, right, forgot the details of runWithReplace's type
2021-05-05 10:38:48 +0200 <Cale> since you're taking snd in the end anyway, that bit will never be used
2021-05-05 10:40:22 +0200 <Cale> sequenceEvent is a lot like dyn, though without the holdDyn
2021-05-05 10:41:35 +0200 <wrunt> I couldn't use dyn as I have code on the backend that isn't using reflex-dom.
2021-05-05 10:41:55 +0200v01d4lph4(~v01d4lph4@122.160.65.250)
2021-05-05 10:41:59 +0200jgt_(~jgt@87.227.221.129)
2021-05-05 10:41:59 +0200 <Cale> Oh, you're using reflex in backend code?
2021-05-05 10:42:28 +0200nicholasbulka(~nicholasb@c-73-21-82-200.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)
2021-05-05 10:43:00 +0200 <Cale> I guess there's the terribly-named stuff in Reflex.Network (we really ought to put that module through a deprecation cycle to change the names, since the functions there have nothing to do with networks)
2021-05-05 10:43:07 +0200 <wrunt> Yeah, I have a websocket from frontend to backend using RequesterT, and I wanted to use it in reverse as well, with the backend making requests to the frontend, so I used RequesterT on the backend as well (with GADT APIs).
2021-05-05 10:43:20 +0200 <Cale> networkHold = widgetHold, networkView = dyn
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2021-05-05 10:44:08 +0200 <wrunt> I came to sequenceEvent via the implementation of dyn, from memory, because it was just `dyn = networkView`
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2021-05-05 10:44:27 +0200 <Cale> Interesting -- you might run into the limitation that Spider doesn't really work concurrently at some point, but if you can keep the reflex-y code on one thread, it should be okay.
2021-05-05 10:45:04 +0200v01d4lph4(~v01d4lph4@122.160.65.250)
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2021-05-05 10:45:39 +0200 <wrunt> Er, well I have one thread (or maybe two?) per client... :/
2021-05-05 10:47:49 +0200 <wrunt> I am seeing this error periodically: 'Error : Unexpected Duplicate, syncCallbacks=True nBatch=217 nExpected=221', from jsaddle, which does feel like a concurrency issue.
2021-05-05 10:48:08 +0200 <Cale> Are you using Events/Dynamics and such from multiple threads?
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2021-05-05 10:49:56 +0200 <wrunt> I'm only using reflex in one thread, but another thread is triggering events in the network, and receiving output from reflex.
2021-05-05 10:50:11 +0200 <Cale> Yeah, that sounds like it could be fine
2021-05-05 10:50:40 +0200rond_(5940206b@89-64-32-107.dynamic.chello.pl)
2021-05-05 10:50:49 +0200 <Cale> It's usually okay to do stuff like forking a thread from inside a performEventAsync even
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2021-05-05 12:33:37 +0200 <siers> Hi! Is it the case that the 'Nat's in agda are fully representable in haskell, just not as useful?
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2021-05-05 12:36:56 +0200 <dminuoso> Yes.
2021-05-05 12:37:04 +0200rayyyy(~nanoz@gateway/tor-sasl/nanoz)
2021-05-05 12:37:11 +0200 <dminuoso> You can simply write `data Nat = Z | S Nat` and use that.
2021-05-05 12:37:26 +0200 <dminuoso> But you have to handroll all functions to work with that, and have terrible efficiency as well.
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2021-05-05 13:04:14 +0200 <timCF> Hello! Can anybody help me to find this function? `(a -> Either b c) -> [a] -> Either b [c]` It feels like it should be something very standard
2021-05-05 13:04:33 +0200 <Uniaika> timCF: does hoogle give you a result?
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2021-05-05 13:04:40 +0200 <timCF> Uniaika: no
2021-05-05 13:05:16 +0200 <timCF> Uniaika: it might be something more generic like `(a -> f b c) -> t a -> f b (t c)` but it gives no result as well
2021-05-05 13:05:33 +0200 <Taneb> :t traverse @[] @(Either a)
2021-05-05 13:05:35 +0200 <lambdabot> error:
2021-05-05 13:05:35 +0200 <lambdabot> Pattern syntax in expression context: traverse@[]
2021-05-05 13:05:35 +0200 <lambdabot> Did you mean to enable TypeApplications?
2021-05-05 13:05:46 +0200 <Uniaika> % :t traverse @[] @(Either a)
2021-05-05 13:05:46 +0200 <yahb> Uniaika: ; <interactive>:1:23: error: Not in scope: type variable `a'
2021-05-05 13:05:50 +0200 <Uniaika> damnation
2021-05-05 13:05:53 +0200 <Uniaika> % :t traverse @[] @(Either Int)
2021-05-05 13:05:53 +0200 <yahb> Uniaika: (a -> Either Int b) -> [a] -> Either Int [b]
2021-05-05 13:05:59 +0200 <Uniaika> ah, we're getting somewhere
2021-05-05 13:06:01 +0200v01d4lph4(~v01d4lph4@122.160.65.250) ()
2021-05-05 13:06:14 +0200 <Taneb> As is often the case, it's trverse
2021-05-05 13:06:22 +0200 <Uniaika> Taneb: praise be 🙇
2021-05-05 13:06:50 +0200 <Taneb> Note that this'll take the left-most Left
2021-05-05 13:07:07 +0200 <Taneb> If you want to combine them, you could use traverse with Validation from one of the handful of libraries that provide that
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2021-05-05 13:08:56 +0200 <Uniaika> timCF: yep, if you want to validate data, validation-selective is certainly your best bet
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2021-05-05 13:10:43 +0200 <timCF> thanks!
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2021-05-05 14:05:31 +0200 <siers> dminuoso, is agda more efficient with those?
2021-05-05 14:05:59 +0200 <dminuoso> siers: Im not sure, but Idris is at least.
2021-05-05 14:06:16 +0200 <siers> dminuoso, how is that achieved?
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2021-05-05 14:06:41 +0200 <siers> if you have any diea
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2021-05-05 14:11:19 +0200 <siers> ok, I found a reddit post about it
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2021-05-05 14:36:16 +0200 <cub3s_> I added the package "lolcoolrofl" under "dependency:" of my .cabal file. Since this package doesn't exist on Hackage, so cabal complained: "unknown package: lolcoolrofl".
2021-05-05 14:36:32 +0200 <cub3s_> This package is on some GitHub repo. How can I make cabal aware of this package?
2021-05-05 14:37:12 +0200 <cub3s_> (and, ideally, make cabal put the build result of this package into ~./cabal/store as it does with all Hackage packages with Nix-style builds)
2021-05-05 14:37:18 +0200peterx112(8ba26143@139.162.97.67)
2021-05-05 14:37:21 +0200 <dminuoso> cub3s_: You can vendor the package.
2021-05-05 14:37:52 +0200 <dminuoso> If you want its build artifacts to be cached/shared, Im not sure that's possible without nix then.
2021-05-05 14:38:21 +0200 <dminuoso> Also, you can upload the package to hackage.
2021-05-05 14:38:34 +0200 <dminuoso> But Im not sure about the policy regarding uploading someone elses package.
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2021-05-05 14:38:47 +0200 <cub3s_> i don't want to upload this particular package to haskell
2021-05-05 14:38:56 +0200 <cub3s_> s/haskell/hackage
2021-05-05 14:39:00 +0200 <dminuoso> Is this an internal package?
2021-05-05 14:39:28 +0200 <cub3s_> yeah, but it would be cool if i could just access it from a github url instead of first cloning it and then refer to it locally
2021-05-05 14:40:14 +0200 <cub3s_> hmm this might be what i need... https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/3.4/cabal-project.html#specifying-packages-from-remote-version-con…
2021-05-05 14:40:15 +0200 <dminuoso> You can
2021-05-05 14:40:27 +0200 <dminuoso> Yup, know that this will not be shared across other packages
2021-05-05 14:40:47 +0200 <dminuoso> (i.e. if two packages depend on it, both have to pull it from git and compile it separately)
2021-05-05 14:40:56 +0200 <cub3s_> oh... but why...
2021-05-05 14:41:06 +0200 <dminuoso> Feel free to engineer the solution into cabal yourself.
2021-05-05 14:41:18 +0200 <dminuoso> Or hire someone to do it? ;)
2021-05-05 14:41:53 +0200 <dminuoso> I guess most tend to either have public dependencies only, or have some internal hackage going.
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2021-05-05 14:44:47 +0200 <cub3s_> dminuoso, ok if that's the only way currently, i think i'll just create a script to download all interesting github repos, tar.gz them, and create out of them a local repo like this: https://cabal.readthedocs.io/en/3.4/installing-packages.html?highlight=hackage.haskell.org#local-n…
2021-05-05 14:45:14 +0200 <cub3s_> fingers crossed they will work just the same as hackage packages when it comes to caching in ~/.cabal/store
2021-05-05 14:45:22 +0200 <dminuoso> cub3s_: I dont think this will share build artifacts either.
2021-05-05 14:45:27 +0200 <cub3s_> fuuuuu
2021-05-05 14:45:30 +0200 <dminuoso> In fact, Im almost certain.
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2021-05-05 14:47:44 +0200 <dminuoso> At best cabal should be able to do this with git dependencies
2021-05-05 14:48:39 +0200 <cub3s_> dminuoso, it just feels a bit weird those other repos (specified in the global configuration file) would be treated differently from hackage packages...
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2021-05-05 15:31:37 +0200seven_three(~user@pool-96-252-123-136.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
2021-05-05 15:32:23 +0200 <seven_three> what does the `|` symbol mean here: `class Monad m => MonadState s m | m -> s where` ?
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2021-05-05 15:32:53 +0200 <dminuoso> seven_three: That's a functional dependency.
2021-05-05 15:33:03 +0200zebrag(~inkbottle@aaubervilliers-654-1-158-70.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr)
2021-05-05 15:33:26 +0200 <dminuoso> See https://ghc.gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/doc/users_guide/exts/functional_dependencies.html
2021-05-05 15:33:27 +0200 <seven_three> oh ok I ran into that before but didn't really dive into what it means
2021-05-05 15:33:34 +0200 <seven_three> yes thanks I will read that
2021-05-05 15:34:37 +0200 <dminuoso> You can think of them as an older version of multi-param typeclasses with associated type families, if that helps.
2021-05-05 15:41:25 +0200 <dminuoso> Err, not multi-param typeclasses. Just associated type families I suppose.
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2021-05-05 15:47:16 +0200 <seven_three> I am now reading about multi-param type classes. This example was introduced: `coerce :: Coerce a b => a -> b`. Why is this any different than saying `coerce :: (Coerce a, Coerce b) => a -> b`
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2021-05-05 15:49:15 +0200 <dminuoso> seven_three: A multi param typeclass lets you write instances that relate two types, somehow.
2021-05-05 15:49:29 +0200EvilMagix(~aVikingTr@2001:8003:340d:d00:b2de:b98:7a93:b0ea) (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
2021-05-05 15:49:29 +0200 <dminuoso> Coerce is a bad example however, since that's not even a real typeclass.
2021-05-05 15:49:48 +0200 <dminuoso> (You just see this as a constraint, but you cant write instances for it)
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2021-05-05 15:50:36 +0200 <seven_three> ill just keep reading
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2021-05-05 15:55:42 +0200 <dminuoso> seven_three: MonadState is probably a very good and motivating example, albeit this also requires fundeps.
2021-05-05 15:56:11 +0200 <dminuoso> The core idea, maybe to prime you for the manual, is to ensure that a given monad has exactly one particular state.
2021-05-05 15:56:26 +0200 <dminuoso> (And that this state type can therefore be inferred from the monad type)
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2021-05-05 17:55:04 +0200 <safinaskar> does base have function for creating something-separated lists? i mean this: f "," [] == "", f "," ["a"] == "a", f "," ["a", "b"] == "a,b"
2021-05-05 17:55:10 +0200 <safinaskar> or something similar?
2021-05-05 17:55:49 +0200 <ClaudiusMaximus> > intercalate "," "ab"
2021-05-05 17:55:51 +0200 <lambdabot> error:
2021-05-05 17:55:51 +0200 <lambdabot> • Couldn't match type ‘Char’ with ‘[Char]’
2021-05-05 17:55:51 +0200 <lambdabot> Expected type: [[Char]]
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2021-05-05 17:56:29 +0200 <ClaudiusMaximus> oh, should be ',', but it's in Data.List in base
2021-05-05 17:56:51 +0200 <safinaskar> ClaudiusMaximus: thanks!
2021-05-05 17:57:13 +0200 <ClaudiusMaximus> @src intercalate
2021-05-05 17:57:13 +0200 <lambdabot> intercalate xs xss = concat (intersperse xs xss)
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2021-05-05 18:04:57 +0200 <monochrom> > intercalate "," ["a", "b"]
2021-05-05 18:04:59 +0200 <lambdabot> "a,b"
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2021-05-05 18:08:00 +0200 <geekosaur> and the other one is intersperse
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2021-05-05 18:30:42 +0200 <xerox_> @src intersperse
2021-05-05 18:30:42 +0200 <lambdabot> intersperse _ [] = []
2021-05-05 18:30:42 +0200 <lambdabot> intersperse _ [x] = [x]
2021-05-05 18:30:42 +0200 <lambdabot> intersperse sep (x:xs) = x : sep : intersperse sep xs
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2021-05-05 19:23:13 +0200 <safinaskar> is this possible to mix one-line and multi-line code in single doctest block? i'm trying to this. here is my attempt: https://paste.debian.net/1196439/ . i get error
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2021-05-05 19:27:37 +0200 <monochrom> Possibly :{ :} is not supported. doctest ≠ ghci
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2021-05-05 19:46:33 +0200 <safinaskar> monochrom: docs say this is supported: https://github.com/sol/doctest#readme
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2021-05-05 20:29:26 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> stack ghc --version gives me Invalid option `--version' ... what?
2021-05-05 20:29:48 +0200 <monochrom> The syntax may be: stack ghc -- --version
2021-05-05 20:30:34 +0200 <monochrom> Because general "stack foo --xxx" the --xxx is for stack.
2021-05-05 20:30:45 +0200 <monochrom> s/general/generally/
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2021-05-05 20:35:52 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> why is stack lagging ghc 9.0.1, it's reporting 8.10.4. i have told stack to update etc and built a fresh project
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2021-05-05 20:36:11 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> that's a very counterintuitive syntax, for stack
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2021-05-05 20:36:32 +0200 <geekosaur> it's the standard way long options behave
2021-05-05 20:36:47 +0200 <enikar> there is not a resolver for ghc 9, yet?
2021-05-05 20:37:03 +0200 <geekosaur> andstack is lagging ghc because there hasn't been an lts release with 9.0.1, because most of the ecosystem is lagging 9.0.1
2021-05-05 20:37:46 +0200 <monochrom> I don't need 9.0.1 new stuff so I'm staying with 8.10.4 too.
2021-05-05 20:37:53 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> i'm trying to define some simple types and work with them . i'm assuming that i should use recorddotsyntax for this ?
2021-05-05 20:38:00 +0200 <geekosaur> and thre main new feature of 9.0.1 (linear types) has very few users as yet
2021-05-05 20:38:25 +0200 <monochrom> simple types don't need RecordDotSyntax. At least my understand of "simple".
2021-05-05 20:39:02 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> is it idiomatic to not name fields ... ?
2021-05-05 20:39:04 +0200 <monochrom> I'm actually looking forward to 9.2 and potentially skipping 9.0.* entirely.
2021-05-05 20:39:30 +0200 <monochrom> It is unidiomatic to use RecordDotSyntax. Please don't conflate issues.
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2021-05-05 20:39:45 +0200 <monochrom> Then again you get to say "that's just because legacy"
2021-05-05 20:39:48 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> do i define a getter function?
2021-05-05 20:40:01 +0200RusAlex(~Chel@unaffiliated/rusalex) (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
2021-05-05 20:40:07 +0200 <monochrom> The field name already doubles as getter function name.
2021-05-05 20:40:52 +0200 <monochrom> I don't get it. Have you properly learned Haskell2010 record syntax? Or is your goal to just expect Javascript syntax to carry over?
2021-05-05 20:41:13 +0200 <davean> electricityZZZZ: I would suggest you almsot definately don't want RecordDotSyntax. It doesn't give you features you didn't already have and it squats syntax space conflating things with function composition
2021-05-05 20:41:44 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> so does the haskell community not have an agreed on method of defining types and accessing their fields?
2021-05-05 20:42:05 +0200 <davean> Incorrect
2021-05-05 20:42:13 +0200 <monochrom> OK you haven't properly learned Haskell2010 record syntax.
2021-05-05 20:42:16 +0200 <davean> How did you even get to RecordDotSyntax?
2021-05-05 20:42:23 +0200 <davean> Yah, you haven't looked at anything
2021-05-05 20:42:28 +0200 <davean> this is defiantely covered in the basics
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2021-05-05 20:44:16 +0200 <dmj`> electricityZZZZ: if you just want access then use compose on the fields, if you want updates .... well now that will cost you
2021-05-05 20:44:22 +0200 <davean> https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch4.html#x10-680004.2 <-- "Labelled Fields"
2021-05-05 20:44:44 +0200Stanley00(~stanley00@unaffiliated/stanley00)
2021-05-05 20:44:45 +0200 <electricityZZZZ> right, i guess, ... do i idiomatically label or is it weird to label,...?
2021-05-05 20:45:18 +0200 <davean> Labeling is common for larger datatypes, and when the lable has meaning
2021-05-05 20:45:25 +0200 <monochrom> It is idiomatic to make your judgment on a case-by-case basis.
2021-05-05 20:46:19 +0200 <monochrom> My understand of "simple" is that in simple cases the field names end up being totally unused.
2021-05-05 20:46:55 +0200 <monochrom> This is what's wrong when a complainer hyperboles with saying "just a simple" all the time.
2021-05-05 20:47:53 +0200 <monochrom> "This is just a simple type!" (it takes 100 lines of code to define) "I'm just asking a simple yes/no question!" (it is an NP-complete question.)
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2021-05-05 20:50:38 +0200 <davean> monochrom: so its decidable
2021-05-05 20:51:02 +0200 <davean> monochrom: we exit simple when we get to semi-decidable
2021-05-05 20:51:09 +0200 <davean> Those are "sorta simple"
2021-05-05 20:51:16 +0200 <monochrom> :)
2021-05-05 20:52:17 +0200 <enikar> so if simple is indecidable… let us inspect difficult questions :)
2021-05-05 20:52:41 +0200 <davean> What is the last knowable busy beaver number?
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